You said it. All you have to do is move. Then claim spiritual weakness to the friends and family when they ask, and be on your way to freedom , you'll love it. If you didn't read Crisis Of Conscience. do. welcome
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by Chameleon inhello everyone.. i'm an "active" jw and have been for...13 years but my faith in the jw org died about 5 years ago.. so, i've been doing the jw thing for 5 years now without believing in it.
i might be an ms soon, unfortunately.. i tried telling my parents about it but they said apostates are good with twisting words and whatnot.. they wouldn't even let me show them evidence of wt hypocrisy; however, my mother did say she found it odd that every once in a while, there's that publisher resolution of donating a certain amount a year.
there might be hope for her yet.
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Are you really free from the Watchtower?
by yaddayadda inthe thread on how long it took you to get out of the organisation made me think.
i honestly think anyone that spends more than half an hour per day on anti-jw sites like this is, psychologically, not out of the organisation at all, despite their best protests.
the watchtower clearly still fascinates them to the point of an obsessive, compulsive need to frequently post on this website and others.
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Obviously you did not waste to much time listening to the F&D slave. Maybe you are to intelligent to understand and all of us are just weak people. Or maybe you have no F#CKING CLUE on human emotions. What the hell are you doing here anyway ? Go F%CK yourself and the angel of I've moved on and you all are still attached horse you road In on.
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How significant was the 1995 bombshell - generation?
by jambon1 ini was wondering what effect the article on the generation change had on most people here?.
for years, the trump card on the ministry when replying to the "it will never come in my day" objection to armageddon, was the doctrine of the generation.
many jw`s probobly held back from making important financial comitments.
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I wonder if there where people before the change that where DF'ed for not believing in the original belief ? and if so, where they now automatically reinstated ? The amount of these is probably next to nothing. Only due to the "let's wait on the society" expression so pathetically and so often used.
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evolution or creation? lets talk...
by Sam87 inok, lets have a discussion about where we all came from, evolution or creation?
(or whatever you beleive in of course) every one put down there main reasons, along with reasonable facts and backup as to why.. .
hopefully this doesnt start to many arguments, lol.. .
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God never had a beginning and never has an end ?Jesus walked on water ? Daniel in the lions den ? Those three dudes Nebuchadnezzar tossed into the furnace ? Two of every creature on earth in a ark ? What about the insects ? ARE KIDDING ME ! No way we came from two naked people in some garden. Its all one big story that people have been Fuc...ing up for centuries. Kind of like when you have a line of people and you start at one end with a story and by the end of the line its a twisted version. Only the story was bullshit to begin with. That's what's in my head right now. No offense to any who still think those things where/are possible, but to logically think about it, now that I look back it seems kind of silly.
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Did I miss my opportunity?
by StillGroggy inim a long time witness but the last district convention with all of it's "don't think for yourself" propoganda led me to this board.
lately i've been trying to formulate a plan, to try and reason with her and get us both out (although her whole family is in, and probably will be till death)
my wife has at times been dissilussioned with the org, but, ironically, i'm usually the one to comfort her and tell her to wait on jehovah.
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Dude, Go on Amazon and order both of Ray Franz's books RIGHT NOW. Think about it, Don't waste one more minute at the hall until you do. How about living your lives guilt free. It will change your life and begin the healing for both you and your mate, I read C.O.C. in three days and I hate to read. It will put the first pieces of the puzzle in place. Get any of that " I can't, it's apostate literature" shit out of your head quick If it is there. That guy was on the governing body and even if half of what he brings up is bull, its enough. It will be a challenge that your mates family are in deep, be careful and try for the escape. All you have to do is keep your mouths shut and claim spiritual weakness to the friends and family, move to another area, that's right move. Keep your thoughts on this forum and start your free life. Time waits for no one. Welcome.
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Will the wts face a Muslim backlash over the new tract?
by fullofdoubtnow inthey do, after all, classify all religions apart from theirs as false, and we've seen in the last few days that it doesn't take much to inflame the more militant factions of islam.
there's a large muslim community around here, and i can't see some of them taking kindly to being labelled a false religion.. this may not be the best time for the wts to be distributing such "information", but i expect they will go ahead, oblivious as to the sort of reaction it may provoke.
i hope that nothing much comes of this campaign, but in the sensitive times in which we all live, i can't help wondering....
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All terrorist must die. That we all know. Just so happens they all claim to worship the same god. Whatever the watchtower decides to print about those FU*KERS is OK by me. So what if they hurt their feelings. WHAT ABOUT THE FEELINGS AND RIGHTS OF THOSE PEOPLE JUMPING OUT OF THE TWIN TOWERS OR IN THOSE PLANES ON 9/11,OR HOW ABOUT THE FAMILIES OF THOSE PEOPLE. Facts don't lie, In my book they are all guilty.
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Realization about the Adam and Eve myth
by CordyC inas i looked at the adam and eve story again, i realized the something is wrong with the story.
jehovah offers the pair all the fruits in the garden of eden save the tree of the knowledge of good and bad.
there's a problem though, why would there be a fruit for that if bad supposedly wasn't around at that point yet?
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I could never explain how people from Africa and say Asia came from the same two people.
It is virtually impossible to reason on that subject, because if true that would be a form of evolution would it not? The fear of death and the unknown I believe is the reason why the storytellers came up with some good ones and of course the weak being the majority bought it. Throughout history religions have hijacked others beliefs over and over again. Lets face it we do live on one cool planet, but chances are we are only to live to 70 or 80 and that is it, so accept it and move on and treat people with as much kindness that they are willing to give. In other words be kind to everybody on the ride but occasionally you need to step up and bitch slap one who needs it.
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Meaningful Quotations...
by LittleToe ini recently came across this one, and it resonated with me:.
"be the change you want to see in the world" mahatma ghandi.. how about you?.
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Shit in one hand and wish in the other. See which one fills up faster.
God willing and the creek don't rise.
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What song would you like to hear entering the Kingdom Hall?
by JH inhere i am, rocked you like a hurricane.
here i am, rocked you like a hurricane.
here i am, rocked you like a hurricane.
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RUN TO THE HILLS
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What's your present belief ?
by JH in.
without attacking anyone for their beliefs, feel free to state what you believe in right now.. personally, i still believe in a higher power, a creator, call him jehovah if you wish, a god that will put things back right eventually.
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Sorry ( Two naked people which all of us originated from and all colors came) Get it?