Mary,
While this is a good idea in theory, in reality I don't think it's such a good idea. People get annoyed when the Witnesses come around and most people do not take the literature. Can you imagine if, two minutes after the Dubs' visit, they hear another knock at the door? Only this time it's to talk about the ones that just left. Not only would that come across as weird, it could almost be seen as 'stalking' and creepy. The householder would realize that you had been watching their house and they would not like that one bit. The whole thing would probably end up as a disaster.
smellsgood: I think that may be true. Of course, I would be delighted if I came across someone antiwitnessing after a visit from the witnesses, because I would know why they would feel strongly against the WT. Most people wouldn't. Plus, people are familiar enough with the Witnesses at their door that coming on their heels wouldn't be necessary. It is amusing to think about though.
If you want to go door to door, I would recommend the following: Obtain a copy of the latest WT & Awake ragazines---the ones that the Dubs will be placing at the door. Then do a flyer up outlining the inconsistencies, lies or cover up complete with references and drop them off in people's mailboxes. Don't even bother ringing the doorbell. That way, when the Witnesses show up, the householder would be more aware than before of some of the lies that they're being fed (that's assuming they even give a rat's ass about whats being written in these magazines).
smellsgood: I disagree with not ringing the doorbell, it makes information so much more compelling when it is personalized I believe. And conversations can lead places that just placing literature can't. If you tell your story and especially if you have personal experiences with shunning or the consequences of no blood transfusions or the covering up of sexual abuse, I think that would be powerful for the householder to know. I think thats the whole point of going door to door, the personal contact, and where it could shine the brightest.
Besides, I don't personally know how to get hold of present issues, and even if I did, I think the real gold nuggets are in their HISTORY. The false prophecies, the 607 date, people would love to hear about the rather juicy stuff probably. A little shock value wouldn't be out of order I don't think.
I think it would be important to maintain that it is a cult awareness, and even if it may be tempting to spread your other beliefs, I think it would be a good idea for it to become a proseltyzing for another belief or a disbelief. Remembering that most Americans for example believe in God, it might make the message of the danger of cults dilluted if someone were to come along and tear into that belief, or expound on their own personal beliefs they have now.
smellsgood
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Would Any of You be Interested in going Door to Door?
by smellsgood inas part of a cult awareness campaign of sorts???
to de-ignorize (new word) householders and give them tools for engaging a cult member on their door step?
i had that idea and got some positive feedback...so, any of you would find that something you would want to participate in ?
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Would Any of You be Interested in going Door to Door?
by smellsgood inas part of a cult awareness campaign of sorts???
to de-ignorize (new word) householders and give them tools for engaging a cult member on their door step?
i had that idea and got some positive feedback...so, any of you would find that something you would want to participate in ?
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smellsgood
AWAKE&WATCHING,
Hi! Welcome to the board!
You read my mind. I was just thinking of such a thing earlier. To actually follow car groups out and just go to the doors that people talked to them. Say that before they read that magazine or started that Bible study perhaps we could just have a moment of their time.
smellsgood: Oooh, and then you can thank the JW's for their contribution in keeping the house to house method legal!! Wouldn't that just be a bee in their bonnet? If enough people were to go door to door de-ignorizing people, we might see the Watchtower pursuing legal avenues to assert that such a practice was unconstitutional and ought to be abolished at once!
"Assure the householder that we will be brief. Leave our own literature on top of theirs, out of sight of course so as not to draw attention to would- be robbers of "not at homes" Oh the joy of the "service is exhausting, we've already been out an hour" coffee break at Tim Horton's or McDonald's. We can wear whatever we like, I'll probably opt for jeans or shorts and a t-shirt with a slogan, maybe one from the Silent Lambs web-site. Now I've really got that pioneer spirit."
smellsgood: Yes! Girls can wear shorts, guys can wear beards, guns n' roses t-shirts are preferred over a starchy ill-fitting suit. No elders cautioning against you about the length of your skirt!
And, it WOULD be for many the first time perhaps they ever got excited about the prospect of door to door work!
I thought there would be other people out there wanting to do this. I think it would be fun! I've never gone door to door!
Thanks nvrgnback, I completely understand why you would never want to do something like door to door ever again! -
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Why the Watchtower is NOT Christian
by smellsgood inwatchtower, feb. 15, 1983, p. 12. .
" john 6:40 watchtower style .
the watchtower; "12/1/1981, p. 27. .
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smellsgood
Arthur,
I have been saying for a long time that the Watchtower organization is basically a hybrid religion of first-century Judaism, and multi-level marketing - a Pharisaical AMWAY; if you will.
smellsgood: That's a great way to put it. The multi-level marketing is spot on. That's all it is. I always and forever am seeing JW's refer to the preaching work as "proof" that they are the "truth." Only ones following Jesus' commission so they say...(Of course, Jesus' commission seemed to include "baptising them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit" do they do THAT?)
but, it's like any business or company out their with a product to sell. If a person's salary and income depended on selling as many socks as possible for instance, that's what would be their incentive to sell as many socks as possible. The whole marketing incentive for selling the WT is not a salary and income, but everlasting life on paradise earth. Get out there and preach, or be bird food in the day of Armageddon. That's incentive. -
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Why the Watchtower is NOT Christian
by smellsgood inwatchtower, feb. 15, 1983, p. 12. .
" john 6:40 watchtower style .
the watchtower; "12/1/1981, p. 27. .
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smellsgood
Junction-Guy,
howdy! Too true, the much maligned church of the WT, the Catholic church, has all sorts of outreaches and programs. I don't think there is any "formula" for a true "religion" so to speak. I think there is alot of negative connotation with "religion"....by the way, if you are of the charitable minded Junction-Guy, would you mind checking out my pathetic plea about WATER on the Friends section. It didn't take off so well, maybe you would be interested in donating a fiver to the Oxfam or something! -
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Would Any of You be Interested in going Door to Door?
by smellsgood inas part of a cult awareness campaign of sorts???
to de-ignorize (new word) householders and give them tools for engaging a cult member on their door step?
i had that idea and got some positive feedback...so, any of you would find that something you would want to participate in ?
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smellsgood
As part of a cult awareness campaign of sorts??? To de-ignorize (new word) householders and give them tools for engaging a cult member on their door step? I had that idea and got some positive feedback...so, any of you would find that something you would want to participate in ?
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WATER!!
by smellsgood ini did need water today, it was flippin 90 degrees, and the makeup i so carefully apply was melting off my face.
i'm still gorgeous though.... .
anywho, i was just reading kerj2leev, can $25 dollars make a difference, and it hit me!
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smellsgood
hmmmm, ok, looks like everyone is on board with me. Good to know I'm not the only one who feels strongly about this. Oh wait, I'm replying to myself. :) I know the thread title wasn't very gripping but come on,,,,anyone? I wish I had a kiss for George Clooney to auction off...
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WATER!!
by smellsgood ini did need water today, it was flippin 90 degrees, and the makeup i so carefully apply was melting off my face.
i'm still gorgeous though.... .
anywho, i was just reading kerj2leev, can $25 dollars make a difference, and it hit me!
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smellsgood
I did need water today, it was flippin 90 degrees, and the makeup I so carefully apply was melting off my face. I'm still gorgeous though....
Anywho, I was just reading kerj2leev, can $25 dollars make a difference, and it hit me! I gotta post on JWD about WATER.
Of course, most of us know that so many people in poor countries don't have access to clean water. It affects their whole lives. The villages that do get a clean fresh and steady supply of water start having a mini-economic boom. Their children aren't dying from parasites from filthy contaminated water. They are not walking miles to a mudbath and scooping up fifty pounds of water to place on their heads for the treck back. They are actually able to spend their time in more profitable ways, and not get sick.
So, as we know, there are people who will go out there on the ground if they have the funds. Water for those who don't have it has been on my mind and heart for awhile, I just don't ALONE have the funds to say, donate enough to have a well drilled.
BUT, wouldn't it be AWESOME if we had some sort of JWD fundraiser, where there was a third party account or something (I don't know how to fundraise, if you need a permit or whatever) where we could raise enough money for a WELL that would known as the JWD well or something?
If that's not possible I do know of organizations that do go in there and they can have you specifically donate money for a well. Like Oxfam.com. What can we do? Would you all like to raise some money for a well? Unfortunately I don't have thin mints, but I make really good snickerdoodles if anybody wants cookies.
Thanks for reading this, and thank you if you are at all interested!
Gratefully,
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Can $25 dollars make a difference?
by kerj2leev inplease click on link below and see how you can help those who want to help themselves!!
http://www.kiva.org/app.php.
http://www.cnn.com/specials/2007/cnn.heroes/.
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smellsgood
Ahhh, brilliant kerj2leev, it's so cool to know that people like you get involved when they have a way to make a difference!
btw, would you be willing to share what mini business ventures you're sponsoring and where?? I'd be interested! Have you gotten to e-mail them direct?
I have to set up a paypal account one of these days so I can do the online donations!!
btw, if you haven't heard of it, Oxfam,,,www.oxfam.com, do sort of similar helping people help themselves! -
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Why the Watchtower is NOT Christian
by smellsgood inwatchtower, feb. 15, 1983, p. 12. .
" john 6:40 watchtower style .
the watchtower; "12/1/1981, p. 27. .
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smellsgood
I hope this might have helped some peeps in the distinguishing characteristics, in matters of theology. Theology is interesting I think if you're a believer or not. Maybe it's just me, I'm really interested in theology, then again, I'm really interested in the lives of celebrities I don't really know. And how to make sauces and bake really good pies. I'm just very deep that way you know.
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Some posters spend a sh*tload of time on here every day!
by yaddayadda intop 10 posters in the last 7 days: .
nvrgnbk 395 posts .
blondie 204 .
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smellsgood
nvrgnback, in 7 days managed to overtake my nearly 12 month post #!!!
However, doubtless he has not managed to post as innanely as I am pleased with myself to do. It is a skill, a tight grasp on the trivial that I maintain with as little class and dignity as I can unwillingly muster. Plus, I wear really tacky hot pants when I'm posting inconsequential drivel. Mind you, I've got a really busy life doing Versace ads and getting paid to show up at Pure Nightclub, on top of maintaining my beach front villa in Italy...its difficult when you're so vital to fashion and... Johnny Depp to carve out time.