"So the tracts you found are 150 odd years old. Cool. As an additional help see if you can give me something more up to date? I still know my history better than you but I'm not actually bragging - just pointing out (purely in the interests of fairness) that just because you can find disgruntled members and bigots that there is any special linkage between the LDS and the WT. We claim absolutely different things."
You wonder why people compare Mormonism and the WT and then you write things like this? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Replace what you said about the LDS with the"SOCIETY" and you ARE A JEHOVAH'S Witness AGAIN!
Using the 150 years old line???? LOL! Woooow, and the Bible is how old? And is it relevant to LDS teachings at all? I know it's kind of like the WT magazines with the Book of Mormon, The Pearl of Great Price and Doctrines and Covenants, you say it's "Based on " Or in the case of "LDS" continuing revelation, goes hand in hand with the bible, etc etc.
By the way has your wife been given her special name for you to call her by in order to secure her salvation?
It's not the doctrinal similarities at all, Mormonism is far more outrageous and see through in the sense that you don't even have to know the history to go ummmmmmm, what?
It's the socialogical tactics that are the same, because it is the SAME SALAD, DIFFERENT DRESSING.
I can't believe you said "disgruntled members" when that is nearly the party line of the WT when anything negative is said about the society.
BTW, the "cults of Christianity" teach incredibly different doctrines,,,but guess what?
They're pretty uniform in what they deny. Kind of interesting I think.
Can't you see that you are defending the LDS in EXACTLY the same way a Jehovah's Witness would defend the WatchTower? Ad Hominem?
You have been owned twice now by seriously messed up cults! Are you addicted to religiousity?
I'm worried that if you leave the LDS now you'll join the Unification Church.
Q said: "If you can point to where we say we are right BECAUSE we understand the scriptures better I can put to bed another stupid claim from that other quotee (is that a real word hehe)"
No, just restoration of the first century Christianity which was lost....same ole same ole
I think you may be evanglizing so much because you don't want to face the fact that you may be wrong AGAIN, and that a belief structure you've built up is built on sand....AGAIN.
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Mormons != JW. Read these genuine quotes from active and inactive members!!
by Qcmbr inwith interest i find that once again the lds faith is cast as the twin tower of mordor to the watchtower orthanc.
we are not the same my precious.
read these quotes below to see just how different we really are.
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Starbucks
by Sailor Ripley ini can't help it... i love the freakin' place!.
i know it's insanely expensive, has long lines and possibly, no, actually is quite obnoxious.
i don't care.
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cyd, my brother loved Cafe Messiah on Capitol Hill, and Cafe Mesina or something that sounds like it! He liked the small local cafes in Seattle.
Also, his favorite restaurants are Broadway Grill on Capitol Hill, Red Mill Burgers (I think its called) and Pagliaccis pizza, what about you?
What's your coffee place it sounds cool, maybe I can recommend it to the people I know in Seattle :)
btw, my brother resisted and despised Starbucks until their green tea frappucino came out. First thing he wanted when he got out of Basic Training :) -
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Starbucks
by Sailor Ripley ini can't help it... i love the freakin' place!.
i know it's insanely expensive, has long lines and possibly, no, actually is quite obnoxious.
i don't care.
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one more thing
Find out about the coffee farmers around the world, if you want to be a thorn in Starbucks side e-mail them about letting Ethiopia having the rights to their own coffee :)
go here
www.oxfam.com
sign up!
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Starbucks
by Sailor Ripley ini can't help it... i love the freakin' place!.
i know it's insanely expensive, has long lines and possibly, no, actually is quite obnoxious.
i don't care.
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It is definitely not the ONLY coffee I drink
but I LOVE IT TOOO!!!!
Today, I went to Starbucks twice, getting a doppio espresso both times!!
I saw cyd said it has a "burnt" flavor....I love the flavor, I don't think it tastes "burnt" actually, rich, smooth, caramelly, and nutty all at once.
and I drink it straight, espresso, no flavor, no milk, no sugar, bleck!
I hate sugary coffee.
I like that they pay a fairer price to their farmers than say the
NESTLE CORPORATION :::: FOLGERS DISTRIBUTORS
NOT ONLY is it AWFUL coffee, they pay AWFUL prices to the farmers.
One can always ask for the FAIR TRADE BLEND from Starbucks which is a couple bucks more, but pays the farmer a certified "fair trade" wage
I buy that, and I see alot more "fair trade" on the shelves these days, my only problem w/ Starbucks fair trade is they don't have it in "BOLD"
and my favorite is EXTRA BOLD coffee, like French Roast.
Really good!
Hey, its probably still fresher than folgers in the Stores!
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A couple of weeks ago
by I.Wonder ina brother gave a talk (i don't remember what it was called).
he asked the audience what they would do to prove to someone that the bible is gods word.
the brother who gave the talk said that we would likely want to direct the individual to various bible prophecies because they give us proof that the bible is inspired of god.. i was wondering what your opinions were on this subject.
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"I mean does Bible prophecy prove any thing at all about the Bible? Is Bible prophecy real? If a witness came to your door and tried to tell you that Bible prophecy is proof that it really is Gods words how would you counter their statement?"
I have to say that if a JEHOVAH'S WITNESS were to come to my door tomorrow and start talking to me in any authoritive manner about prophecy, I'd be unable to contain myself and would probably collapse into giggles.
Bible Prophecy and WatchTower Prophecy are two divergent things in my mind. They don't "interpret prophetic scripture" they corrupt any text to suit their own ends.
If anyone were unfamiliar with the faith, and a Witness were to lay out the "prophecy" of the Watchtower in the only way possible: a series of confusing, disjointed, nonsensical circular dispensations with the fantastical invisible Jesus and somehow the fall of Nebuchadnezzar being related to it. The invisible albeit studious Jesus needing three years to choose the "right religion," and the parable of a faithful and discreet slaves being injected with a potent exclusivity serum that they bounce around on and which doesn't even sound inspiring. Wow, discreet, that's really, marvelous.
If the WATCHTOWER SOCIETY, BEING THE PROPHETIC ORGANIZATION THAT THEY ARE, TRULY HAD THE STRANGLEHOLD ON CORRECT INTERPRETATION OF SCRIPTURE, THAN THAT WOULD BE ABSOLUTE, IRREFUTABLE AND CONCLUSIVE PROOF OF THE
BIBLES
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What the hell are they thinking?
by JeffT ina couple of threads about recent watchtower articles as made me wonder what they're thinking when they are writing them for a magazine that is supposed to be for preaching purposes.
i tried to put myself in the mind of somebody that didn't know much about jehovah's witnesses.
the stuff on weddings would have been weird at best, and the recent articles aimed at parents whose children leave the wt must strike normal people as down right creepy.
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ummm, everything in the magazines is creepy to an outsider I have to say.
To me anyways. More than anything, the pictures, just so incredibly bizarre. It reminds me so much of Camazotz from "A Wrinkle in Time" creepy, weird, creeeeeeeeepy!
And I've never held an "Awake" in my hands, but it seems like they do funky articles like "Anorexia: Starving for love; Why don't they eat more?"
It would be hysterical if they had a special Awake! every year titled "Jehovah's Witnesses : Best and Worst Dressed Service Year ----"
Now THAT I would want to see lol!
The best p. 1-1.5
The Worst p. 1.5-389
The God-Awful p.389-700
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Hello all, here's my story.
by Paralipomenon inbrace yourself, this may make you gag.. holidays were spent in service.
some friends were having a bbq that we were invited to, i went down and asked to see if there were by-products in the wieners.. i was baptized at 15.. i asked to be baptized at 12 and to humor me they let me take the test.
to their surprise i actually aced it but the elder convinced my parents that i was still too young.. i would run lemonade stands in the summer time and donate the proceeds to the hall.
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"Brace yourself, this may make you gag. "
*gag* I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit. You were a really kinda whipped to a frenzy, zealousful dub, weren't you?
I'm just surprised you didn't mention any autographed glossy eight by tens of the Governing Body !
Ted Jaracz would look so good on the mantle.
Glad you made it out anyways! No more elders, no more crooks, no more smelly new light books.
nobody's ever said a kingdom hell...
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Hambeaks Extremely Heartbreaking News
by Sparkplug inour friend hambeak just got the most dreaded phone call from his jw child.
the news was passed on as he was asked for by name and not as"dad" and let known that "they" just called to let him know that his other son, brian, age 26, is dead.
he was in a car accident.
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I am sooooo extremely saddened to hear about this Hambeak!
It's unbelievably tragic.
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Yet another "What Are You Listening To?" thread
by Nosferatu inso here's what's up and playing in winamp today (let's see how many are underlined with links):.
1. accept - no time to lose (4:36).
2. accept - seawinds (4:29).
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ummm.. Paris Hilton 'Stars are Blind' ....NOT!
Garbage Version 2.0
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Wendy Burgers
by pobthespazz inwhat ever happened to wendy burgers?
they finished their uk operation about 10 years ago , are they still big in the usa?.
i used to love the square burgers that made them famous and the fries were good as well , including a nice salad bar, far better then the mc**** that we see on every street now..
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Yes, but they're now in competition with Mcdonalds to see who can create the slightest most immaterial meat patty possible.
Jack in the Box is better.
The fries are still very good at Wendy's.
Ah, now I'm thinking about fries! Oh wait, I was already.
Anybody remember Burger Kings fries BEFORE they went all "spackly" as I scientifically put it?
They were brilliant back in the day! aahhhhh the good ole days!
I still remember the adverts when they were pushing how much better (cheaper) they were, I'd give my ear or something...well I'd give an ear to have the old ones back. I don't know whose but i'd convince them it was worth it for me!