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  Put a wreath on my car!! What WILL they think??? LOLOLO

  by Lady Liberty in

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  i hope you are all doing well!!.

  this is the first year we are officially celebrating christmas.

  after much research last year, we decided christmas was no more "pagan" then any normal wedding ceremony observed by any good jw!!

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  smellsgood

  Yes, but are you wearing a reindeer jumper?
  
  I'm so glad to hear frosty has made his grand appearance on your lawn!
  
  Is he anamatronic or does he belt out any jolly tunes?
  
  a wreath on your SUV? lol! I don't think your celebrating Christmas can in any way be in doubt Liberty!
  
  Have a merry one!
  
  
  smellsgood
  
  
  P.S. Good to see you around again!
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  Americans Celebrate !

  by 5go in

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  the last day of the worst congress in history!.

  i hope the republicans disolve as a party for this corruption.. .

  i know that i will never support them again.. .

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  What kind of government? ALL WOMEN! Oh, and I don't consider Hillary Clinton female, I think she could even be a different species, like buffalo.
  
  I like John McCain, he's literally the only politician right now in Washington that I have the slightest bit of trust in. Oh, and there's another one from Arizona, he's quite cool, I forget his name but he's a Mormon.
  
  I steer more towards a republican philosophy, but don't like either of the parties right now. I voted Nader for pres.
  
  Less government control/power/bureaucracy is always a good thing in my mind. That's the philosophy.
  
  Unless you like endless red tape, extreme waste and poor results :)
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  What song best epitomizes what keeps you going

  by Lady Lee in

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  i know a lot of song threads have been posted but i am interested in what and why a particular song moves you to keep going when you have lost so much.. if possible find the lyrics to the song and post them along with your what song and why it was so important.

  as a kid i had an old 78 record player that i had to wind up to play (i did say old.

  ) there was one old record that had a song by ed ames 'the impossible dream" i was in foster care and had no contact with my family.

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  omg, lost_light06 you posted the song I was going to(Let Down by Radiohead). Not that I have been through what you'all have or anything. It's always been my favourite song on OKC though :)
  
  have you ever gotten a chance to see them live?
  What about you Daystar, goodand badgirl?
  
  
  I love Johnny Cash's version of "Bridge over Troubled Waters"
  
  
  just because i'm craving something i've quit
  
  "Cigarettes and Chocolate Milk" Rufus Wainwright
  
  Cigarettes and Chocolate milk
  these are just a couple of my cravings
  everything it seems i like's a little bit stronger
  a little bit thicker
  a little bit harmful for me
  
  if i should buy jellybeans
  have to eat them all in just one sitting
  everything it seems i like's a little bit sweeter
  a little bit fatter
  a little bit harmful for me
  
  and then there's those other things
  which for several reasons we won't mention
  everything about them is a little bit stranger
  a little bit harder
  a little bit deadly
  
  it isn't very smart
  tends to make one part so broken-hearted
  
  sitting here remembering me
  always been a shoe made for the city
  go ahead, accuse me of just singing about places
  with scrappy boys faces
  have general run of the town
  playing with prodigal songs
  takes a lot of sentimental valiums
  can't expect the world to be your raggedy andy
  while running on empty
  you little old doll with a frown
  
  you got to keep in the game
  maintaining mystique while facing forward
  i suggest a reading of 'a lesson in tightropes'
  or 'surfing your high hopes' or 'adios kansas'
  
  it isn't very smart
  tends to make one part so broken-hearted
  
  still there's not a show on my back
  holes or a friendly intervention
  i'm just a little bit heiress, a little bit irish
  a little bit tower of pisa whenever i see you
  so please be kind if i'm a mess
  
  :p
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  JW dress fads

  by rassillon in

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  i was just looking at the revelation book and some of the illustrations reminded me of some of the dress fads which i have seen growing up as a jw.

  what fads did you see at the halls?.

  the one that got me to thinking was the sun dress on page 51. .

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  smellsgood

  **I always dug the Four-in-hand tie with the ufinished Windsor knot...ala' ascot style...
  
  <barf>
  
  The same moron used to bad-eye me for wearing a good pair of boots and Stetson hats....
  
  ~Hill
  
  **
  
  
  
  
  
  if you aren't as of now, you should be a contributor on Style Forum :)
  
  www.styleforum.net
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  Mormons != JW. Read these genuine quotes from active and inactive members!!

  by Qcmbr in

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  with interest i find that once again the lds faith is cast as the twin tower of mordor to the watchtower orthanc.

  we are not the same my precious.

  read these quotes below to see just how different we really are.

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  smellsgood

  Qcmbr,
  
  I think I may know why you didn't get it....I have assumed all along that you were an ex-JW turned Mormon post Watchtower, and that is where I was coming at you from, but it seems that maybe you were never a Witness?
  
  I know, if you assume you make an ass out of u-and-me. But mostly me this time :)
  
  
  
  
  
  And the perfect Platform, Susans comment here:
  
  
  "And, c'mon people! Isn't his "differences" list pretty clear in showing that there are actually many key differences in major doctrinal points between LDS and JW?
  
  
  
  
  
  Susan, please pay close attention to what I am going to write here
  
  THE
  
  "MAJOR DOCTRINAL POINTS"
  
  DIFFERENCES
  
  ARE NOT
  
  WHAT HAS BEEN REPEATEDLY POINTED OUT AS THE SIMILARITIES BETWEEN THE LDS AND THE WATCHTOWER
  
  
  
  
  
  Ok, Let's see the perfectly GAPING differences between
  
  the "MAJOR DOCTRINAL POINTS"
  
  of the WATCHTOWER SOCIETY
  
  and the UNIFICATION CHURCH, otherwise known as the MOONIES
  
  and then after we observe these IRRECONCILABLE DOCTRINAL DIFFERENCES
  
  let's examine why I CAN SAY WITH GREAT CONFIDENCE THAT THE WATCHTOWER and the UNIFICATION CHURCH
  
  are INCREDIBLY SIMILAR, AND THE REASONS AND EXAMPLES OF WHY THAT IS SO
  
  DESPITE
  
  THE "MAJOR DOCTRINAL DIFFERENCES"
  
  savvy?
  
  Moonies VS: Watchtower
  
  *Source of authority claimed - Well well well, Mormonism claims the angel Moroni was the one to reveal those missing stone tablets to Joseph Smith, but REVEREND MOON was visited by BIGGER AUTHORITY APPARENTLY::::the big J.C.himself, at age 15 on Easter Sunday no less! JESUS charged SUN MYUNG MOON tooooooo
  
  finish the work Jesus had started! Sun spoke with Jesus and John the Baptist in the Spirit World!
  
  WT CLAIMS: Came out of the Whore Christendom and was CHOSEN BY JESUS IN 1918/1919 as Jehovah's "MOUTHPIECE" "faithful and wise servant" to give the sheep "food at the proper time"
  
  And C.T. Russell believed himself to be himself alone the "faithful and wise servant" :)
  
  Qcmbr said for Mormonism: Heavenly Vision.
  
  hmmm, like Reverend Moon then more than Charles.
  
  
  * Understanding of purpose of life - The Moonies, there is a chance for spiritual salvation, since Jesus did not complete his mission on earth, there is as of yet no physical salvation in place
  
  Once man has achieved earthly perfection, he "becomes one body with God, possesses deity, and cannot commit sins. This man is not in need of redemption or of a savior, nor does he need the life or prayer and faith required by fallen men, because he is without original sin. Such a man, being himself without original sin, comes to multiply children of goodness without sin; in consequence, his children are not in need of a savior for the redemption of their sins" (pp. 140-141).'The Purpose of Jesus' Coming as the Messiah'
  
  The WATCHTOWER:
  
  to spend forever in what seems to be a A___B time frame still in a perfected body petting wild animals, eating vegetables,,,,and attending the kingdom hall yet. Where is God? He is in Heaven with the 144K!
  
  Qcmbr said of Mormonism: Become like God
  
  alrighty then.
  
  
  *JESUS
  
  THE MOONIES:
  
  As with the Watchtower, and for that matter the Mormon church, there is the public spin on whom Jesus is taught to have been and done, and then there is the reality once you become a member.
  
  Reverend Moon actually teaches Jesus to be a failure. He didn't accomplish his true mission, he didn't get married. And since you can't get to "Heaven" if you haven't been married, and Jesus didn't, so he went to "paradise" a "lower form" of heaven instead. Actually, Reverend Moon kindly had Jesus retro married to a woman from the unification church, so it seems he's been cleared for landing beyond the pearly gates.
  
  Moon actually believes that he is the Messiah truth be told, and he is finishing Jesus' work, he is married and Jesus was not.
  
  Moons son who died in a car accident before he was married is said by Moon to be a Lord in the spirit world, and Jesus himself even bows down to him.
  
  WATCHTOWER:
  
  Jesus is Michael the Archangel in pre-existent form. He is the "first creation" of Jehovah. Jesus created all [other] things ;)
  
  MORMONISM:
  
  Jesus is a creation, the product of god and his goddess wife after they became so from being people...from another world.
  
  Jesus is the spirit brother of Satan, and of humans.
  God--the Father
  
  has a BODY of FLESH AND BONES and together daddy and mommy god procreate baby gods who inhabit humans here on earth.
  
  One of three gods of their separate Tritheist Godhead.
  
  
  
  
  
  MOONIES = SHUN
  WATCHTOWER=SHUN
  MORMONISM= NOT UNIFORMLY BUT YES, SHUN. Particularly the Fundamental branches
  
  
  *Path to God - MOONIES
  
  First of all get married, be a Moonie. Be principled, recognise the "true parents."
  
  WATCHTOWER
  
  Follow all Watchtower rules, work out your salvation with "good works" which translates to preaching and more preaching. Must be a member of Jehovahs Spirit directed organization. Must believe their doctrine to a T and not question it.
  
  MORMONISM:
  
  Qcmbr said: Faith in Jesus
  
  Hmm, exactly what a Witness would claim actually.
  
  But, as with the Watchtowers own literature proving that to be misleading, so does the literature of Mormonism and believers of it prove your claim to be misleading
  
  "Good works are necessary for salvation", Articles of Faith, p. 92.)
  
  "There is no salvation without accepting Joseph Smith as a prophet of God", (Doctrines of Salvation, Vol. 1, p. 188.)
  
  "The first effect [of the atonement] is to secure to all mankind alike, exemption from the penalty of the fall, thus providing a plan of General Salvation. The second effect is to open a way for Individual Salvation whereby mankind may secure remission of personal sins" (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 78-79.)
  
  
  * Scripture - MOONIES
  
  Divine Principle, Sun's speeches. Not the Bible so much
  
  WATCHTOWER
  
  Watchtower and Awake and the neverending books they produce. The Bible as interperted by the FDS.
  
  MORMONISM
  
  Since the Bible is corrupted, and besides the revelation wasn't finished, The Book of Mormon, The Pearl of Great Price, Doctrines and Covenants, the Bible...where it doesn't conflict with the other books.
  
  
  * Revelation -
  
  I don't know why Qcmbr thinks the WT teaches "revelation" has "stopped" doesn't he know the WT is getting progressive revelation, new light, and are spiritually guided by the holy spirit itself?
  
  MOONIES:
  
  Revelations galore. Mostly because Jesus couldn't git er done.
  
  MORMONISM:
  
  Prophets, revelations. Yeah.
  
  
  
  
  
  As you can probably see, the doctrines of the MOONIES and the doctrines of the WATCHTOWER are incredibly different.
  
  But they are so similar it's not even funny.
  
  It is the SOCIOLOGICAL ASPECTS of these GROUPS THAT MAKE THEM SO.
  
  BEHAVIOUR, THOUGHT, INFORMATION, AND EMOTIONAL CONTROL.
  
  The AUTHORITY STRUCTURE,,,there is a group, a person or an elect WHO INTERPRET OR DISPENSE THE "TRUTH" as typically they say has been "lost" is being revealed now at Gods timing.
  
  SALVATION IS ALWAYS TIED IN WITH BELONGING TO AND BELIEVING THE TEACHINGS AND INTERPRETATION OF THIS GROUP OR PERSON.
  
  DOING WHAT THEY SAY
  
  There is always a discrepancy between what they reveal privately and what they teach/believe/practice privately
  
  You're always advised in these groups to not read material that is not faith "building" they have a can on what you should and should not read.
  
  You are told not to associate with former members of the group. They are wicked, evil out to get the faith, disgruntled, have an axe to grind, not interested in the truth, doing the work and will of satan, spreading lies, filth, propoganda.
  
  Don't question the leader, associate with members of your faith exclusively, don't read conflicting views, obey.
  
  To illustrate, people were only able to speak to Steve Hassan "negatively" about his Moonie status when he completely physically incapacitated
  
  by the way, like Qcmbr said about "anti" sites, the following IS an account from an "ex" moonie site, but I am SUUUUURE you're getting lies, false information, messed up opinions from raging foaming moonie apostates who hate truth and light. So I can direct you to the Official Unification Church site so you get the true (sanitized) beliefs and history of it all :)
  
  www.unification.org :) :) :)
  
  now from the dreaded apostate website
  
  http://www.geocities.com/craigmaxim/u-8a.html
  
  "Steve really is a hero figure, a superman with glasses. It was a near fatal van-accident as a moonie that ultimately led to his freedom from the cult. His parents who were caring for him with casts and broken bones, found someone to help councel him out of the cult. Steve would have none of it, and reports that if he could have walked, he would have jumped out of the second story window to prevent any possibility of disloyalty to his "True Father", Sun Myung Moon (Moon tells his followers that he is their father). After several days of lectures from his councelors about how the Unification Church employed Mind Control techniques to get him to make decisions he ordinarily would not have if left to his own free will, and other information he had not previously known about Sun Myung Moon, still Steve was unwilling to accept what he was hearing. Finally one night, in an emotional encounter with his parents, he screamed out "Look, I don't care if Sun Myung Moon is HITLER! I've chosen to follow him!!". Hearing those stark words from his own lips, startled him, and gave him something to reflect on over the next days. Slowly, as many of us have, he came to the realization that Moon was a fraud. That his church practiced deception to recruit people into it's ranks and that he himself had been deceived and nearly robbed of his entire life!"
  
  
  that's all for now.
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  Mormons != JW. Read these genuine quotes from active and inactive members!!

  by Qcmbr in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  with interest i find that once again the lds faith is cast as the twin tower of mordor to the watchtower orthanc.

  we are not the same my precious.

  read these quotes below to see just how different we really are.

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  "So the tracts you found are 150 odd years old. Cool. As an additional help see if you can give me something more up to date? I still know my history better than you but I'm not actually bragging - just pointing out (purely in the interests of fairness) that just because you can find disgruntled members and bigots that there is any special linkage between the LDS and the WT. We claim absolutely different things."
  
  
  You wonder why people compare Mormonism and the WT and then you write things like this? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Replace what you said about the LDS with the"SOCIETY" and you ARE A JEHOVAH'S Witness AGAIN!
  
  Using the 150 years old line???? LOL! Woooow, and the Bible is how old? And is it relevant to LDS teachings at all? I know it's kind of like the WT magazines with the Book of Mormon, The Pearl of Great Price and Doctrines and Covenants, you say it's "Based on " Or in the case of "LDS" continuing revelation, goes hand in hand with the bible, etc etc.
  
  By the way has your wife been given her special name for you to call her by in order to secure her salvation?
  
  It's not the doctrinal similarities at all, Mormonism is far more outrageous and see through in the sense that you don't even have to know the history to go ummmmmmm, what?
  
  It's the socialogical tactics that are the same, because it is the SAME SALAD, DIFFERENT DRESSING.
  
  I can't believe you said "disgruntled members" when that is nearly the party line of the WT when anything negative is said about the society.
  
  BTW, the "cults of Christianity" teach incredibly different doctrines,,,but guess what?
  
  They're pretty uniform in what they deny. Kind of interesting I think.
  
  Can't you see that you are defending the LDS in EXACTLY the same way a Jehovah's Witness would defend the WatchTower? Ad Hominem?
  
  You have been owned twice now by seriously messed up cults! Are you addicted to religiousity?
  
  I'm worried that if you leave the LDS now you'll join the Unification Church.
  
  Q said: "If you can point to where we say we are right BECAUSE we understand the scriptures better I can put to bed another stupid claim from that other quotee (is that a real word hehe)"
  
  No, just restoration of the first century Christianity which was lost....same ole same ole
  
  
  I think you may be evanglizing so much because you don't want to face the fact that you may be wrong AGAIN, and that a belief structure you've built up is built on sand....AGAIN.
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  Starbucks

  by Sailor Ripley in

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  i can't help it... i love the freakin' place!.

  i know it's insanely expensive, has long lines and possibly, no, actually is quite obnoxious.

  i don't care.

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  cyd, my brother loved Cafe Messiah on Capitol Hill, and Cafe Mesina or something that sounds like it! He liked the small local cafes in Seattle.
  
  Also, his favorite restaurants are Broadway Grill on Capitol Hill, Red Mill Burgers (I think its called) and Pagliaccis pizza, what about you?
  
  What's your coffee place it sounds cool, maybe I can recommend it to the people I know in Seattle :)
  
  btw, my brother resisted and despised Starbucks until their green tea frappucino came out. First thing he wanted when he got out of Basic Training :)
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  Starbucks

  by Sailor Ripley in

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  i can't help it... i love the freakin' place!.

  i know it's insanely expensive, has long lines and possibly, no, actually is quite obnoxious.

  i don't care.

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  one more thing
  
  Find out about the coffee farmers around the world, if you want to be a thorn in Starbucks side e-mail them about letting Ethiopia having the rights to their own coffee :)
  
  go here
  
  www.oxfam.com
  
  sign up!
  
  It's a terrific organization
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  Starbucks

  by Sailor Ripley in

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  i can't help it... i love the freakin' place!.

  i know it's insanely expensive, has long lines and possibly, no, actually is quite obnoxious.

  i don't care.

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  It is definitely not the ONLY coffee I drink
  
  but I LOVE IT TOOO!!!!
  
  Today, I went to Starbucks twice, getting a doppio espresso both times!!
  
  I saw cyd said it has a "burnt" flavor....I love the flavor, I don't think it tastes "burnt" actually, rich, smooth, caramelly, and nutty all at once.
  
  and I drink it straight, espresso, no flavor, no milk, no sugar, bleck!
  
  I hate sugary coffee.
  
  I like that they pay a fairer price to their farmers than say the
  
  NESTLE CORPORATION :::: FOLGERS DISTRIBUTORS
  
  NOT ONLY is it AWFUL coffee, they pay AWFUL prices to the farmers.
  
  One can always ask for the FAIR TRADE BLEND from Starbucks which is a couple bucks more, but pays the farmer a certified "fair trade" wage
  
  I buy that, and I see alot more "fair trade" on the shelves these days, my only problem w/ Starbucks fair trade is they don't have it in "BOLD"
  
  and my favorite is EXTRA BOLD coffee, like French Roast.
  
  Really good!
  
  Hey, its probably still fresher than folgers in the Stores!
  
  Seattle is Starbucks heaven isn't it?
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  A couple of weeks ago

  by I.Wonder in

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  a brother gave a talk (i don't remember what it was called).

  he asked the audience what they would do to prove to someone that the bible is gods word.

  the brother who gave the talk said that we would likely want to direct the individual to various bible prophecies because they give us proof that the bible is inspired of god.. i was wondering what your opinions were on this subject.

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  "I mean does Bible prophecy prove any thing at all about the Bible? Is Bible prophecy real? If a witness came to your door and tried to tell you that Bible prophecy is proof that it really is Gods words how would you counter their statement?"
  
  I have to say that if a JEHOVAH'S WITNESS were to come to my door tomorrow and start talking to me in any authoritive manner about prophecy, I'd be unable to contain myself and would probably collapse into giggles.
  
  Bible Prophecy and WatchTower Prophecy are two divergent things in my mind. They don't "interpret prophetic scripture" they corrupt any text to suit their own ends.
  
  If anyone were unfamiliar with the faith, and a Witness were to lay out the "prophecy" of the Watchtower in the only way possible: a series of confusing, disjointed, nonsensical circular dispensations with the fantastical invisible Jesus and somehow the fall of Nebuchadnezzar being related to it. The invisible albeit studious Jesus needing three years to choose the "right religion," and the parable of a faithful and discreet slaves being injected with a potent exclusivity serum that they bounce around on and which doesn't even sound inspiring. Wow, discreet, that's really, marvelous.
  
  If the WATCHTOWER SOCIETY, BEING THE PROPHETIC ORGANIZATION THAT THEY ARE, TRULY HAD THE STRANGLEHOLD ON CORRECT INTERPRETATION OF SCRIPTURE, THAN THAT WOULD BE ABSOLUTE, IRREFUTABLE AND CONCLUSIVE PROOF OF THE
  
  BIBLES
  
  UTTER
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  ABSOLUTE
  
  ERRANCY
  
  THROUGH AND THROUGH.
  
  NOT PROOF OF ITS "CORRECTNESS"