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  PRESS RELEASE 8-12-02

  by silentlambs in

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  2. friends

  press release

  monday, august, 12

  william h. bowen: ky 270-527-5350, silentlambs.org

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  Dia

  'as was her husband' would also work (if that's not already taken care of).

  Minimus - I think it's really great to hear that some - most? - JWs agree with what Bill did, tho they currently disagree with the way he did it. It's a HUGE first step when we're talking about people who've been stopping up their ears completely for a very, very long time.

  JWs - Bill tried all that formal JW stuff and he got NOWHERE. And THAT'S why you finally heard about it via the media. As you continue to hunt for reasons to speak out against Bill Bowen and silentlambs your actions are speaking your allegiances.

  Edited by - Dia on 13 August 2002 5:45:33
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  *sigh*

  by SPAZnik in

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  you'd be good with someone?.

  that potential in your .

  interactions with someone?.

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  Dia

  Don't bolt. Just catch your breath.

  It's okay to turn on the thinking part of your brain too. Passion is a great place to start. But sometimes it's right and sometimes it needs to be reconsidered. Always, there's nothing wrong with walking into - or out of - things with your eyes open.

  But bolting bespeaks a cowardice you will someday regret if you don't eventually gain some mastery over it.

  You're in control. Even when you're out of control.
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  Should I sue the Elders/WT Society (! or ?)

  by morrisamb in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  each victim of sexual abuse must make a lot of individual choices in their life.

  to remain silent or to disclose.

  to pursue charges or not.

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  Dia

  It's interesting that you would ask us that question.

  As I see it, a person can either sue or write a book to regain their self-respect and composure after such horrendous things as you've been through.

  I would most certainly see where you might want to walk away and have ANOTHER LIFE for yourself, one that is not infested with even more WT crap. There comes a point when even fighting them is still allowing them time and power in your life and I wouldn't fault you for a second for wanting to just dispose of the whole thing from this point on.

  On the other hand, from your stance and with your support, there is a LOT you could accomplish with a lawsuit, as far as taking away some of their power and diminishing their power to continue to behave in the way they do. That could do a lot to help other people and to embolden them to also file suit. Finally, it might also do a lot to prevent some of the abuse of future lambs.

  What are the odds that you'd win? I don't know. It seems it would not hurt to ask those questions of an attorney. Talk with a good one.

  How crushing would it be if you lose? (There's definitely a way to lose and still win this kind of a case, but is it worth the emotional risk? Again, speak with an attorney first.)

  I wish you luck in sorting this out. Your decision is not an easy one to make. I hope my comments help in some way.

  (By the way, any interest from Oprah??? There would be a quicky way to get it out and make a HUGE difference all in one fell swoop, and also to garner the interest of an attorney who might actually be qualified to handle this kind of a case.)

  No one can possibly fault any conclusion you come to. But you're the one who is going to have to live with it.

  God bless you.

  Edited by - Dia on 12 August 2002 8:52:7
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  Bill Bowen Disfellowshipped

  by silentlambs in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as of 8:30 pm this evening the appeal hearing decided to uphold the decision.

  i spoke to them for over an hour and tried to reason with them as to the validity of their decision.

  frankly, they were not interested.

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  Dia

  One of the more damaging things that the JWs did to me as I was growing up is that they successfully intimidated me out of my intuitions, especially about people.

  May I finally say that after looking at your slides, in my opinion, these are some spooky, creepy people.
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  New Official JW Website updated!

  by Trauma_Hound in

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  Dia

  Just curious. Has anyone ever listed the names of the guys on the GB? And, has anyone done a background check?

  (Criminal, legal, mental health, etc.)

  At first, I find it easy to assume that any background check would find them spotless.

  But then, I'm thinking they probably put a LOT of faith in people making that assumption. And maybe that would not be the case at all.

  I think it would be worth looking at.

  (Very funny post, by the way)

  Edited by - Dia on 12 August 2002 8:32:49
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  Bill Bowen Disfellowshipped

  by silentlambs in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as of 8:30 pm this evening the appeal hearing decided to uphold the decision.

  i spoke to them for over an hour and tried to reason with them as to the validity of their decision.

  frankly, they were not interested.

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  Dia

  I hope you are seeking a new spiritual home.

  You have SO MUCH to offer. And God - and your new community - would be so proud and happy to embrace you in worship and prayer.

  We are praying for you that you will find the place where God wants you to be. And where you will be surrounded by the love of others who love God.
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  Bill Bowen Disfellowshipped

  by silentlambs in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as of 8:30 pm this evening the appeal hearing decided to uphold the decision.

  i spoke to them for over an hour and tried to reason with them as to the validity of their decision.

  frankly, they were not interested.

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  Dia

  Why do they bear such a striking resemblance to undertakers?

  Stand back.

  They've got their minds and hearts tied into such a tight little knot, when this thing busts loose, somebody could get hurt.

  We should pray for our enemies, right?

  This is why it's not easy to be a Christian.
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  New York Times latest Report on JWs

  by Pureheart in

  1. social
  2. current

  ousted members contend jehovah's witnesses' abuse policy hides offenses.

  by laurie goodstein.

  william bowen always considered himself a devout jehovah's witness.

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  Dia

  Anyone know where to e-mail Laurie?

  (Also, anyone else experiencing computer glitches here today?)
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  Help!

  by Dia in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  please excuse me for butting in here, but as i've said i'm rather illiterate on the computer.

  would someone please forward this to nyt writer, laurie goodstein, who has written today's story on the jw sex scandal.. (it is a copy of the 'murderer at your door' article that appeared recently in another publication.

  just showing that, having 'their own judicial system', there is nothing the wts won't embrace and cover up, given the opportunity).. www.kuro5hin.org/story/2002/4/1/1515/18246.

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  Dia

  Please excuse me for butting in here, but as I've said I'm rather illiterate on the computer.

  Would someone please forward this to NYT writer, Laurie Goodstein, who has written today's story on the JW sex scandal.

  (It is a copy of the 'Murderer At Your Door' article that appeared recently in another publication. Just showing that, having 'their own judicial system', there is nothing the WTS won't embrace and cover up, given the opportunity).

  www.kuro5hin.org/story/2002/4/1/1515/18246

  Thanks much
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  NEW YORK TIMES SUNDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  by silentlambs in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we are going to have an extensive article in the new york times this sunday.

  there is an early addition that comes out in most cities around on saturday.

  i encourage one and all to get your copy and do not miss the important piece of history.

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  Dia

  To paraphrase Mr. Clinton, 'it depends on what your definition of the word 'danger' is'. (And to put words in the mouth of Mr. Bowen, 'one person's danger is another person's paradise').

  It has been mentioned on other sites that JWs will cover their eyes and ears when attempts are made to give them information in a 'public' way. (On TV, In their congregations or while they are out in service with another JW).

  However, it was noted that if they receive information via the mail, in the privacy of their own homes, where they could open it in private, with no one watching or knowing, they will NOT be able to resist reading it.

  Might I suggest that this article be copied and mailed individually, to JWs that you know and care about.

  Congratulations, Bill. For having the courage to stay with this all the way.

  We hope that we have provided something good for you.

  We continue to stand at your side. All the way.