I think, in a simpler time, the expression was, "An idle mind is the devil's workshop".
How true.
i've discovered one of the most amazing places, thanks to a poster here:.
(i don't know how to create a link; please feel free if you do).
there are video tapes and audio tapes and movies and cds and all kinds of stuff.
I think, in a simpler time, the expression was, "An idle mind is the devil's workshop".
How true.
i noticed quite a few former elders commenting on the thread:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=37801&site=3&page=1
i thought it was amusing that about 20 percent of the bethelites in my department at bethel have left the organization.
jjrizo
Lee Elder
hillary_step
footprints
Athanasius
kenpodragon
proandcon
bigred
silentlambs (Hi!)
minimus
alfie
qwerty (M.S.)
FreePeace
HoChiMin
Dino
thirdson
Axelspeed
JT
jack2
Amazing
WildTurkey
dannyboy
belbab
happy man
BLUEBLADES (current?)
And counting.....Did I miss anyone? I'm telling you, guys. There's a book in here.
you all can thank the infamous thread searching poster named, undisfellowshipped for this!.
hmmmm....t.j. d.s.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=4734&site=3&page=1 .
Never doubted you for an instant.
why we dont tell(apologies for this veeery long post).. i cant even express how much i am behind silentlambs right now though i may be overly concerned by the latest letter sent out im sure bb knows what hes doing and all will become clear, and even if its a mistake then we have to allow for mistakes as long as they dont cost lives like wt mistakes do.
bb is only a man and hed be the first to admit that.. i know the majority of people on this board totally understand why an abused child doesnt tell they have been abused straight away, as far as i know there has only been one buff here that suggested all abused people should speak out straight away or not expect help later simply because someone touched them!
like all of you i switched off to this jw clown but began wondering how many more people or jdubs are taking such a pathetic outlook (very few i guess).
Wonderful things will open up for you when you begin to share this with your wife. It's nice that you sort of have already alluded to it with her. It sounds like she could be a very loving person when it comes to you. Thanks for sharing it with us.
i noticed quite a few former elders commenting on the thread:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=37801&site=3&page=1
i thought it was amusing that about 20 percent of the bethelites in my department at bethel have left the organization.
Why do you think YOU were selected to be an elder?
Do you think there was anything about your particular personality that made you so pluckable?
So attractive to them?
i noticed quite a few former elders commenting on the thread:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=37801&site=3&page=1
i thought it was amusing that about 20 percent of the bethelites in my department at bethel have left the organization.
I'm proud and happy to be in your company. Truly.
I can't wait to read your expose. I'm sure, with the right author/editor, it could make the best-seller list.
Everyone is interested to read about how good and noble intentions get twisted and perverted into cruel or evil actions.
It's the age-old story of good and evil that fascinates (and educates) us all. Or perhaps it's the story of good and evil and apathy.
Y'know, "The only thing needed for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing".
I hope you - and we - are joined by many, many more.
Perhaps eventually by all of them. ;-)
Edited by - Dia on 5 October 2002 8:35:36
Edited by - Dia on 5 October 2002 8:50:29
Two questions:
1) What happens to the records? They're turned over, eventually to Brooklyn? Monthly, annually?
2) Is anything else, any other crime so guarded by the WTS as the crimes against children?
Sexual crimes in general? Stealing? Fraud? Property damage? Assault? Murder? Etc. (is there an etc after murder? Oh well, you get the idea)
just thought i might let you all know of a follow up story that will be televised on the sunday program here in australia this sunday 9am channal 9. .
with one daughter gone, ian cousins turned to alison.
like her sister, she was sent home.
GREAT!
Sorry. I didn't see this until now. (nice to know that someone reads my stuff)
I stand by my words. Of course, I can't speak for everyone.
If you feel very strongly that this doesn't apply to you, I think that's GREAT.
But we can't call you a 'typical' JW mom, can we. I mean, you're HERE.
I've just seen and known so much that leaves my mouth hanging open. I'm left to wonder which came first, the chicken or the egg?
The cruel and heartless parents (and people) or the brainwashed ones, blindly following their leaders.
Guess I'd have to side with Jerry Bergman when he says that the religion may or may not attract the mentally ill, but fact is, they get WORSE when they're in it and they get better when they get out.
Edited by - Dia on 4 October 2002 21:25:10
http://www.andersonsc.com/stories/story_page.asp?id=68899
drowned girl's mother is charged .
by nathan golden.
One big difference between the Avon lady and the girl scouts and the JWs. The Avon lady and the girl scouts are trained to be polite and respectful and not too pushy. The JWs spend a lot of time training to override ANY objections because they are on a mission from God that is more important than ANYTHING you might possibly think you 'need' to be doing.
Not making any accusations, but you know what I'm talking about.