ok.....here's one for you.....maybe this follows on from previous posts about not forever being "ex-jws" as after all, you say you have to move on, and many here claim that they have.....however reading most posts here it becomes obvious that that doesn't seem to be the case.
many seem to be trapped in a "go get 'em" crusade against the jws that seems to go round and round ...... and others just go round.. why?
how long before resolution occurs?
Scooby, I think it's largely your imagination that is causing you to see these two groups as 'the same'. Look again and more deeply.
As for me, I will quit bashing JWs when they no longer have the power and authority (and when they can no longer maintain the secrecy) to traumatize innocent children.
I hope that day comes soon.
i don't picket, but have been known to slip silent lambs brochures in watchtowers @ the laundromat, & also go stand next to them in the streetwork & hand out silentlams brochures.
they don't seem to like this, & they always turn around & leave, to which i usually yell, hey guys, where you goin?
' can't we all just get along?
I've never heard that term, 'evil slaving'. What is it?
Please explain.
i was given the december 8, 2002 awake from a relative, and that is the title to an article inside.
it goes on to relate how violent some parents and coaches have become and gives some examples of parents who have been violent in regards to their children's sports activities.
while i do realize that there probably are instances of violent parents.....i'm sure these instances are relatively few and sporadic.
Mulan, Have you seen 'The Rookie'? Your story made me think of it.
I never realized JWs were 'officially' against competition.
Well, that sure wraps up 'life skills' for living in America. Shame, shame.
the watchtower organisation has been guilty of major coverups and blatant lies.. it does not want ex jws telling others what they know.. does it ever occur to you that the watchtower have people who post on this board, gathering information about us?
they could use it against us at any time....they could keep a record of what we say on our posts and establish who we really are.. e.g.
people who i hardly ever speak to on this board suddenly seem to know details about me.
Remember:
"Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that they're not really out to get you"
;-)
have any of you known or heard of elders snooping and rummaging thru yours or anyone else's personal belongings?
perhaps to find "evidence"?
well.....this just happened to me!
JWs don't have a 'right to privacy'.
They give it up along with their right to 'freedom of speech'.
They then assume the same for everyone else.
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what is the youngest you've known someone to be da'd or df'd, and what for?
It's all those scriptures in the Old Testament about men giving up their daughters to strangers and visitors and such.
I think they truly believe they have a biblical 'right' to a pedophilic view of the world, and women, and children..
Where is that scripture? In Leviticus somewhere?
I bet we could say it is very dear to the GB. Of course they wouldn't say so.
Theocratic War Strategy, you know.
Edited by - Dia on 14 November 2002 4:14:30
dantheman is a stupid f*cking loser who may be losing his job tomorrow due to a very f*cking stupid loser thing he did at work.. i am so disgusted with myself right now.
my image in the mirror makes me nauseous.. have you ever been fired from a job?
how did it affect your employment from that point forward?
'attractive nuisance'....I think I just found a name for a new line of blue jeans.
Wouldn't that be cute scrawled across our bottoms?
'Don't get too close; you could drown'.
or...
'There ought to be a fence around them'
or perhaps just....
'legally irresistable'
;-)
Edited by - Dia on 13 November 2002 6:36:21
would not you enjoy perfection in all these sparkling facets?perfect life?perfect i.q.
?perfect mind?perfect looks?perfect health?perfect house?perfect intellect?perfect happiness?perfect knowledge?perfect government?perfect infrastructure?perfect loving marriage?perfect spectacular sex?perfect standard of living?perfect specimen of a body?perfect prosperous happy world?perfect infinite lifespan with all the above?.
on top of all this the frosting on the cake is earth becoming a perfect planet where every square inch of surface area is like a lush botanical garden.. i dare anyone to tell me with a clear conscience they would not want all of this and look forward to wonderful things that surpass the scope of our imaginations.
Ah, the deluded 'never wrong' mind at work.
the book of revelation, purported to have been written by the apostle john in his tenth decade of life, and one of the most contoversial entries into the biblical canon (so many early fathers opposed its inclusion, it made it in by the ``skin of its teeth") and full of arcane imagery and so convoluted that that it's been the cause of often bitter sectarian wrangling over its interppretation for 1900 years, seems for the wtbts to outweigh the words of jesus in its formulation of dogma.. consider how the insistence of the literal application of the 144,000, for example, has distorted -- and vitiated the impact of-- such plain-language parables as the sheep and the goats, the ten virgins and the other sheep,not to mention the influence of this book on their worldview.
in short, this one book has become for jws a prism through which to peer into the rest of the bible.
that's the view from two one five; what say you?.
By the way, there was recently (within the last 3 years or so) a book series and maybe even a movie, which was all about Revelation and very popular with the fundamentalist Christian arena.
Did JWs ever comment on it?
the book of revelation, purported to have been written by the apostle john in his tenth decade of life, and one of the most contoversial entries into the biblical canon (so many early fathers opposed its inclusion, it made it in by the ``skin of its teeth") and full of arcane imagery and so convoluted that that it's been the cause of often bitter sectarian wrangling over its interppretation for 1900 years, seems for the wtbts to outweigh the words of jesus in its formulation of dogma.. consider how the insistence of the literal application of the 144,000, for example, has distorted -- and vitiated the impact of-- such plain-language parables as the sheep and the goats, the ten virgins and the other sheep,not to mention the influence of this book on their worldview.
in short, this one book has become for jws a prism through which to peer into the rest of the bible.
that's the view from two one five; what say you?.
I think you're absolutely right about JWs and the book of Revelation (tho I wouldn't go so far as to have an opinion about whether or why it should/shouldn't be in the Bible).
I think if you want to start a cult, it's best to form it around something very valuable, very obscure and hard to understand.
It's a whole lot easier than trying to build a cult around the clearer words of Jesus. But who am I to say? That happens, too.
