I wonder how much they realized that I controlled the whole thing, they played right into my hands with their ignoring me at the WT meeting, etc.
I bet they haven't even figured this out!
Way to go! And two thumbs up!
some may remember, i wrote on an other thread that elders forbade me to give comments at the wt meeting, as i weaken the brothers' faith.
i wasn't satisfied with this outcome and, 10 days ago i sat with my wife on the front part of the kh (like in many khs, attendants pack on the back seats), in the middle of the row, right in front of the wt elder, and raised my hand insistently.
i was of course openly ignored but i didn't care, all that i wanted was verybody to see how they deal with independent members.
I wonder how much they realized that I controlled the whole thing, they played right into my hands with their ignoring me at the WT meeting, etc.
I bet they haven't even figured this out!
Way to go! And two thumbs up!
from beginning to end, how long did it take you, when you first started your personal questioning and re-evaluating the watchtower organization and concluding that the wts was definitely not true?
my sister is asking this.
some of us (who left a couple decades ago - pre-internet) are saying it took about 10 years on average.
WELCOME Booboodiboo!
from beginning to end, how long did it take you, when you first started your personal questioning and re-evaluating the watchtower organization and concluding that the wts was definitely not true?
my sister is asking this.
some of us (who left a couple decades ago - pre-internet) are saying it took about 10 years on average.
I never doubted for a moment, I always knew it was the truth.
Over several years i became increasingly inactive, but I still believed.
At one point I decided to stop attending completely because i could no longer stand the dysfunction in the ranks, but I still believed.
Then one day i was cleaning my house, thinking of nothing in particular, and a little voice in my head said,
"What if none of it is true?"
And in that instant I knew none of it was true ......... I fell to my knees and let go of a scream that came from the depths of my being.
And I was out.
for all those that read my post from the other day, i have been asked that if i am to miss any meetings i must call one particular elder per his request.
so on sunday i woke up and decided to stay home from the meeting and test my theory that this guy is on a power trip.
i "had a headache" which in all reality was a small hangover from the night before.
Love your reply, that was perfect.
I also love how you offered no explanation at all.
That elders panties are all in a bunch right now.
Down the road, if that elder gives you any grief about it.
You can say " Well brother, i hold you to a higher standard ......... one where you treat others with more respect.
i agree.
here are some real quotes.
"if you're not a born-again christian, you're a failure as a human being.
Yep, JW's are no different then any other fundy group.
JW's think they are special and unique, when there is nothing about them that is unique.
This is one of the things that really surprised me after i left.
ok, i'm always online looking for jobs in the fashion industry, though there weren't much in that catagory in indiana.
the pickings are slightly better here in california but most of the jobs are in southland.
so i'm looking at this one fashion job site that's pretty good and i find that a community college in stockton is hiring fashion instructors.
Da-hem that's a scary big hand Purps!
ok, i'm always online looking for jobs in the fashion industry, though there weren't much in that catagory in indiana.
the pickings are slightly better here in california but most of the jobs are in southland.
so i'm looking at this one fashion job site that's pretty good and i find that a community college in stockton is hiring fashion instructors.
Best of luck!
i know of two jw therapists, one who is an elder.. so yesterday i was out in service (yea i know) and we saw another car group from another congregation in a parking lot.
so we all started to talk and see who knew who, etc.
do you know any other jw therapist elders out there?
In my old hall there was an elder and elderette who were licensed couselers.
And yes it was with the understanding that anything that the elders "needed to know about" it would be reported.
i don't know if they had to sign anything or not but that rule was very clear.
They were fairly new in our hall (I think they were from california) and they both had full time work as soon as they hung out their shingle.
I really liked this Bro and Sister, they were some of the most mature level headed JW's I have ever met.
I would like to know were they are now. I cannot imagine them still being in da troof.
we all know wt's view of "apostates"and disfellowshiped persons.
they grap from the old testament quotes that "god's people, isralites" stone to death the evil doers, even the unobedient children.
the first one to cast the stone was a close relative, parents, brothers, sisters.
The society would eagerly stone Apostates.
IF we have been out for a while sometimes we forget what vile disgusting creatures Apostates are,
We are dogs returning to our vomit, we have commited the unforgivable sin,
We are worse then Hitler, Pol Pot, Stalin, or David Koresh.
(according to the society)
One of their major control techniques is FEAR.
Fear of stoning would keep most everybody in the org.
we all know wt's view of "apostates"and disfellowshiped persons.
they grap from the old testament quotes that "god's people, isralites" stone to death the evil doers, even the unobedient children.
the first one to cast the stone was a close relative, parents, brothers, sisters.
For the posters that don't believe they would.
Have you forgotten what happended in Malawi?
Have you forgotten how the society takes great pride in the fact that some of their members children died for lack of a blood transfusion? Even writing articles boasting about it?
People who would allow their children to die in the name of god, would have no problem stoning sinners in the name of god.