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  American Politics...leave it to the Americans

  by Who are you? in

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  simons board rules "if you don't like the policies, you are free to leave" sounds a lot like the neocons battle cry of "my country love it or leave it"...the irony is palpablesimon's disdain of american political ideology is understandable.

  i remember on my first of dozens of trips to europe, standing in line to board the ferry that crossed lake chiemsee to one of king ludwig's castles.

  though we were talking quietly, it became apparent that we were a couple of americans mixed in with the german majority.

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  digderidoo

  Being petty and insulting with name calling i obviously agree with, but this ruling seems more along the line of your political persuasion.

  Paul
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  American Politics...leave it to the Americans

  by Who are you? in

  1. jw
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  simons board rules "if you don't like the policies, you are free to leave" sounds a lot like the neocons battle cry of "my country love it or leave it"...the irony is palpablesimon's disdain of american political ideology is understandable.

  i remember on my first of dozens of trips to europe, standing in line to board the ferry that crossed lake chiemsee to one of king ludwig's castles.

  though we were talking quietly, it became apparent that we were a couple of americans mixed in with the german majority.

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  digderidoo

  Well, first of all you admitted that you HAVEN'T ACTUALLY READ WHAT I PUT.

  I have read what you have put and not basing this on what others have said. You were very condescending in calling republicans uneducated for a start. If it is just a case of not cutting and pasting, then surely that should apply to all political persuasions.

  But it's your board and you make the rules.

  Paul
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  American Politics...leave it to the Americans

  by Who are you? in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  simons board rules "if you don't like the policies, you are free to leave" sounds a lot like the neocons battle cry of "my country love it or leave it"...the irony is palpablesimon's disdain of american political ideology is understandable.

  i remember on my first of dozens of trips to europe, standing in line to board the ferry that crossed lake chiemsee to one of king ludwig's castles.

  though we were talking quietly, it became apparent that we were a couple of americans mixed in with the german majority.

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  digderidoo

  Simon,

  I was too late in reading the post on the thread where you made your ruling. So i would rather post what i have to say here as you've been reading this thread. I have decided not to post much anymore and not to rely on this board as the support that it has been, but feel i need to air my views on this.

  I think you are totally wrong in your decision not to allow people to post their right wing views. This thread is a prime example, you are posting your views on here in an ascertive way, yet i'm sure there are some who may feel bit to dare i say scared to challenge you for fear of being deleted.

  Please don't think i am coming from a right wing perspective, upon leaving the org i dived head first into politics. I almost joined the Socialist Workers party, but didn't through fear of being disfellowshipped. Over the years my political views have mellowed, but i'm still on the left. For me listening to all this right wing drivel is what helped me to form my views. I love my stance to be challenged, when some come at me with a right wing argument it only strengthens the views i hold. My views, also anti-american ones can be seen in the threads i have posted on.

  But in making this ruling you really are stifling free speech. BTS got deleted for challenging your views, he seemed to have a good counter argument from what i saw on his post.

  I guess your ruling really has made me realise that this board belongs to you, many here may well have felt they owned the board so can post whatever they like. But many here use this board as support in the same way as i have done, in the same way that you have done.

  For me, i have thought about posting in the future on political debates, but i can't see how i can if some will be scared to voice their right wing opinions. I have often wondered where the left would be without the right. On a world wide scale communist governments have failed imo because they have not had a good opposition.

  I always thought that this board should welcome all ex jws and all active jws who are having doubts, this for me should transcend politics.

  But as i have said this ruling of yours certainly makes it clear that this is your board and your statements show where you want it to go. I sincerely hope that those ex jws amongst us who hold right wing views do not rely on this board to much for support.

  Paul
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  Hi all

  by SailAway in

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  i have decided to join this forum after quite a long time lurking here (a number of years actually).. i have been out of the truth for a while and recently started to attend some meetings.

  but i now think a bit more freely and wonder whether i am doing the right thing.

  a cousin of mine regularly posts on here, didgeridoo in fact i have seen him today, speaking to him has made me decide to finally post on here, although i have my reservations whether i am doing the right thing.

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  digderidoo

  I know i have said i want to stop posting here but i have to with this one. Thanks everyone for your comments to sailaway.

  He's gone back home now and wants people to know that he will be back on at some point over the next few days. Because of the situation he don't want to log on JWD at home, so he's either going to do so from mine or on a library pc. If he decides to back off or stay thats up to him i guess. But nice one chap for posting here.

  Paul
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  Gone full circle...time to say bye

  by digderidoo in

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  i feel at the moment to keep posting on this site is doing me no good.

  i used to post here many years ago and came across many things jw related that made me feel angry towards the way i was brought up.

  in particular the 607 issue and the generation change.

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  digderidoo

  Thanks guys, i'll still pop in through the back door from time to time.

  My parting shot :-

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp0ccQVy1og

  Paul
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  Gone full circle...time to say bye

  by digderidoo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i feel at the moment to keep posting on this site is doing me no good.

  i used to post here many years ago and came across many things jw related that made me feel angry towards the way i was brought up.

  in particular the 607 issue and the generation change.

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  digderidoo

  Hi all

  I feel at the moment to keep posting on this site is doing me no good. I used to post here many years ago and came across many things JW related that made me feel angry towards the way i was brought up. In particular the 607 issue and the generation change. I felt at the time that i wasted my youth away by pioneering, thinking the end was about to come.

  By posting here over the last six months or so, it has had more to do with my alcoholism issues than anything else. When i attended my first AA meeting back in January it came as a shock when they ended it in with a prayer. So inevitably my issues with the WTBTS came to the front. In this time i have read Crisis of Conscience and have enjoyed discussions on here.

  However, i feel at the moment that to join with discussions on here i am just going around in a circle. I have done enough WT bashing over the years and no longer feel i want to join in with these discussions. If anything coming here a second time around has lessened my anti JW stance. For instance the main reasons i stayed away was to do with the 607 date and the generation. When i first learnt about the 587 date i accepted this without any research, now in sobriety i have researched this and come to realise that although there is much evidence to support this date, it is however not conclusive. So why did i accept this without the research?

  I really do now feel that most JW's are sincere people. My mom is one, most of the people i grew up with are, so i don't feel comfortable in WT bashing. Yes there are evil JW's, but i don't think they should be all tarred with the same brush. I also feel that the WTBTS were sincere in making the mistakes they have, i feel they should have acknowledged them but i don't feel it was done to mislead.

  I find some here are all to ready to jump on the anti JW band wagon, as i have done. For instance the GB anti college letter, no one has seen it, maybe it's a guideline that some CO's have interpretated their own way i don't know. But the point is I don't know, there is no scan of it available yet many have assumed that all these elders are going to be losing their positions without actually researching it for themselves.

  This board has been a great help in my journey towards sobriety and for that i want to thank you all. But for me i do not want to keep going around in circles bashing the WT, i thought i had put these issues to bed many years ago. My feeling towards these issues has now changed.

  We are all at many different stages in life. For me i have tried to go the atheist route, it's the logical one but i can't. I now have such a clear head compared to how i used to. My battle with alcohol is a long one, my battle with drugs is in the past i feel. I now look at things differently, i want to let go of my WT bashing. In October i will be starting a LLB (law) degree on an external programme with The University of London, i would never have done this drinking, i need to concentrate on preparing for this. Sometimes i stay up reading this site till late, which inevitably effects my work. I need to move on from this site.

  I will pm some on here with my email, i particular would like to keep in touch with other recovering alcoholics which is my main issue. I will lurk here from time to time. I may even post in the future as i know i am not barred from the site and would be welcomed back. I will respond on this thread to comments but for now i feel that i am at a stage in my life where it does me no good to spend time here.

  So thank you all for your comments and support this past six months or so and bye for now.

  Paul
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  JW's and the Wikipedia page

  by alexb123 in

  1. watchtower
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  what do people here think of the wiki page on jw's should it be updated with any knowledge that is freely available here?

  also surely the links page at the bottom should have a link to either this site or another site that refutes the watchtower society?

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/jehovah%27s_witnesses

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  digderidoo

  I have added one or two things to it in the past but it just ends up getting altered by a JW.

  Paul
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  Abusive People On This Board...

  by cognac in

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  how do you handle them?

  i mean, sometimes they write things that are really hurtful!.

  do you just ignore them altogether?

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  digderidoo

  If someone responds to one of your posts in a way you don't like why let it bother you? We are all grown ups here, while being abusive is childish that is more a reflection on them rather than you. If the post was abusive then just let it go over your head. However it can be easy to interpret someone who is just speaking their mind as being offensive, if this is the case then deal with it.

  In all honesty i don't know to which thread your refering, but whatever has happened why let it get to you?

  Paul
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  Welcome !

  by Simon in

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  welcome to the newest jehovah's witness discussion forum on the net.. please register so that you can post to the forum and turn this into a welcoming place for other brothers and sisters online

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  BTTT

  Thought i'd bump up the very first original thread on this site as a welcome to all the newbies.

  Paul
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  HAPPY FATHER'S DAY!!!

  by nomoreguilt in

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  like myself, i know that there are many fathers here that have children, grown or young, that are still active jw's.

  i have 2 sons, 30 and 34. one is active the other is not.

  i know that i wll not recieve a call from them today.

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  digderidoo

  I had breakfast in bed this morning Still had to cut the grass though

  Paul