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  What was it that first got you thinking that the Society was WRONG in how they INTERPRET the BIBLE?

  by UnDisfellowshipped in

  1. watchtower
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  what was it that first got you thinking that the society was wrong in how they interpret the bible?.

  for me personally, it was the way they always downgrade jesus to be an angel and are promoting the governing body in his place.. also when the society taught that jesus was abaddon/apollyon the fallen angel in revelation..

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  digderidoo

  607 v 587 for me too. If they've got that one wrong, what else have they got wrong?
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  Demon possessed furniture?? Any scriptural support?

  by digderidoo in

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  i remember instances where we told that the demons could get into the house through furniture or ornaments.

  if anyone had a problem in the house with demons, they should remove anything that they may have bought second hand.

  i remember one family getting rid of their carpet!.

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  Does anybody have any links to WT articles or literature about it?
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  Demon possessed furniture?? Any scriptural support?

  by digderidoo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i remember instances where we told that the demons could get into the house through furniture or ornaments.

  if anyone had a problem in the house with demons, they should remove anything that they may have bought second hand.

  i remember one family getting rid of their carpet!.

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  digderidoo

  I remember instances where we told that the demons could get into the house through furniture or ornaments. If anyone had a problem in the house with demons, they should remove anything that they may have bought second hand. I remember one family getting rid of their carpet!

  What is the basis for this belief? Is there anything in scripture to justify this viewpoint?

  Paul
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  Is the length of a generation about to be 120 years??

  by digderidoo in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  with the definition of a generation now 2 overlapping lifetimes, is the society preparing to make it's length 120 years?.

  watchtower 2003 december 15 pp.14-19 our watchfulness takes on greater urgency our watchfulness takes on greater urgency.

  "keep on the watch, therefore, because you do not know on what day your lord is coming.

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  digderidoo

  With the definition of a generation now 2 overlapping lifetimes, is the society preparing to make it's length 120 years?

  Watchtower 2003 December 15 pp.14-19 Our Watchfulness Takes On Greater Urgency Our Watchfulness Takes On Greater Urgency"Keep on the watch, therefore, because you do not know on what day your Lord is coming."—MATTHEW 24:42.
  "ABOVE all other things, the twentieth century was shaped by war," says author Bill Emmott. While admitting that all periods of human history have felt the weight of wars and violence, he adds: "The twentieth century did not differ in kind, it differed in degree. It was the first century to feature a truly world-spanning conflict . . . And, as if to emphasize the point, it featured not just one such worldwide conflict, but two."
  
  2 Wars that involve 'nation against nation and kingdom against kingdom' were foretold by Jesus Christ. However, they are just one aspect of 'the sign of Christ's presence and of the conclusion of the system of things.' In this great prophecy, Jesus also mentioned famines, pestilences, and earthquakes. (Matthew 24:3, 7, 8; Luke 21:6, 7, 10, 11) In many respects, such calamities have increased in scope and severity. The badness of man is abundant, as seen in his attitude toward God and fellowman. Moral breakdown and increase in crime and violence are evident. Men have become lovers of money rather than lovers of God, obsessed with pleasure. All this testifies that we are living in "critical times."—2 Timothy 3:1-5.
  
  3 How do you view the worsening trend in human affairs? Many are indifferent, even callous, to distressing events of the day. The world's influential and intellectual men do not discern the meaning of "the signs of the times"; neither have religious leaders given proper guidance in this matter. (Matthew 16:1-3) But Jesus admonished his followers: "Keep on the watch, therefore, because you do not know on what day your Lord is coming." (Matthew 24:42) Jesus here encourages us not only to be watchful but to "keep on the watch." To keep on the watch, we must remain alert and vigilant. This requires more than simply acknowledging that we are living in the last days, more than recognizing that times are hard. We must have firm conviction that "the end of all things has drawn close." (1 Peter 4:7) Only then will our watchfulness take on a sense of urgency. Hence, the question that we must reflect on is: 'What will help us to strengthen our conviction that the end is near?'
  
  4 Consider the conditions prevailing during the time preceding a one-of-a-kind event in human history—the great Deluge of Noah's day. People were so bad that Jehovah "felt hurt at his heart." He declared: "I am going to wipe men whom I have created off the surface of the ground." (Genesis 6:6, 7) And he did just that. Drawing a parallel between then and now, Jesus said: "Just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be."—Matthew 24:37.
  
  5 It is reasonable to assume that Jehovah feels about the present world as he felt about the pre-Flood world. Since he brought an end to the ungodly world of Noah's day, he will certainly destroy the wicked world of today. Having a clear understanding of the parallel between that time and our day should fortify our conviction that the end of the present world is near. What, then, are the similarities? There are at least five. The first is that a warning of coming destruction is given in no uncertain terms.
  
  Warned of "Things Not Yet Beheld"
  6 In Noah's day, Jehovah declared: "My spirit shall not act toward man indefinitely in that he is also flesh. Accordingly his days shall amount to a hundred and twenty years." (Genesis 6:3) The issuance of this divine decree in 2490 B.C.E. marked the beginning of the end for that ungodly world. Just think what that meant for those then living! Only 120 years more and Jehovah would bring "the deluge of waters upon the earth to bring to ruin all flesh in which the force of life is active from under the heavens."—Genesis 6:17.
  
  7 Noah received the warning of the upcoming catastrophe decades in advance, and he wisely used the time to prepare for survival. "After being given divine warning of things not yet beheld," says the apostle Paul, "[Noah] showed godly fear and constructed an ark for the saving of his household." (Hebrews 11:7) What about us? Some 90 years have passed since the last days of this system of things began in 1914. We are certainly in "the time of the end." (Daniel 12:4) How should we respond to warnings we have been given? "He that does the will of God remains forever," states the Bible. (1 John 2:17) Now is therefore the time to do Jehovah's will with a keen sense of urgency.
  
  8 In modern times, sincere students of the Bible have learned from the inspired Scriptures that this system is doomed to destruction. Do we believe this? Notice what Jesus Christ clearly stated: "There will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world's beginning until now, no, nor will occur again." (Matthew 24:21) Jesus also said that he would come as God's appointed Judge and would separate people as a shepherd separates sheep from goats. Those found unworthy would "depart into everlasting cutting-off, but the righteous ones into everlasting life."—Matthew 25:31-33, 46.
  
  9 Jehovah has kept these warnings in front of his people by means of timely reminders through the spiritual food provided by "the faithful and discreet slave." (Matthew 24:45-47) Moreover, every nation, tribe, tongue, and people are called upon to "fear God and give him glory, because the hour of the judgment by him has arrived." (Revelation 14:6, 7) An integral part of the Kingdom message preached earth wide by Jehovah's Witnesses is the warning that God's Kingdom will soon remove human rulership. (Daniel 2:44) This warning is not to be taken lightly. Almighty God always keeps his word. (Isaiah 55:10, 11) He did in Noah's day, and he will in our day.—2 Peter 3:3-7.
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  "Keep on the Watch"
  21 Although the Flood seems remote from our day, it clearly provides a warning that we must not ignore. (Romans 15:4) The similarities between Noah's day and our day should make us increasingly aware of the significance of what is happening and alert us to the thieflike coming of Jesus to execute judgment upon the wicked.
  
  22 Today, Jesus Christ is directing a tremendous spiritual building work. For the security and survival of true worshipers, an arklike spiritual paradise exists. (2 Corinthians 12:3, 4) To be preserved through the great tribulation, we must remain in that paradise. Surrounding the domain of the spiritual paradise is Satan's world, ready to assimilate any who have become spiritually drowsy. It is imperative that we "keep on the watch" and prove ourselves ready for Jehovah's day.—Matthew 24:42, 44.
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  Do you know (or are) a former JW elder/leader that became a pastor or leader in another Christian denomination?

  by onemore in

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  and...i wonder if other christian denominations see ex-jw as christians simply switching denomination.

  do they validate the jw baptism... in another word, for example, will the baptists re-baptize an ex-jw who wants to join their church?

  unomas.... .

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  Yes, Pastor Dave Hall of Living Water's Ministries in Cyprus.....

  http://livingwatersministiescyprus.blogspot.com/

  He and his wife were JW's for 50 years.
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  Deprogramming... yourself.

  by confliction in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so, the title pretty much explains it.. .

  i've come to a pretty definite conclusion for myself as to where i stand, and how i feel about the existence of a deity- let alone the idea that wts has divine backing.. .

  my issue is that, being born in, i have lots of subconsciously ingrained phobias and behaviors burned in so deep, i constantly catch myself thinking and reatcting to things the "witness" way- things that don't apply to my life or the way i (want to) live my life anymore.. for example, because of the way i've been raised and indoctrinated, i've grown a serious aversion- you could say almost a literal fear- of worldy people; girls in particular.

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  I can relate totally to what you are saying. I was 27 when i left the organisation, prior to that i'd had no real interaction with anybody outside. I didn't know how to mix or socialise with anybody, where do you meet them? What do you talk about? It was a big learning curve, i watched others and saw how they did it. Find yourself a friend and start going out, meet as many new people as you can. Even talk about your experience as a JW if you feel comfortable with it, you'll find that people in general are interested in it.

  You've just got to put yourself out there and go for it, no matter how scary that may be.

  Paul
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  I have finally did it and I will graduate from college with my BA degree in Sociology.

  by booker-t in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  well everybody i told you all a few years back how hard it was to be in college at the age of 40. i thought my hair was going to fall out trying to keep up with the young college kids in math and science.

  but now 3 years later i will be graduating this november with my ba degree.

  i just love school and will be applying for graduate school to get my ma.

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  digderidoo

  Congratulations. I'm two years into a six year degree at the age of 40, i'm looking forward to being in your position.

  Paul
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  Tips on going to my first DC in 12 years...

  by Aussie Oz in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am seriously considering going to the dc here in adelaide.. i want to hear first hand stuff i have only read about, i want to see how it feels to be a fly on the wall.. i want to record the program and get the new releases.. i want to hear what my kids are made to hear.. any suggestions?

  you may feel free to slap me too if you think i need it!.

  a) go in disguise.

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  I went back to a few meetings and a convention day after 12 years for similar reasons. If you're anything like me you'll sit there and it'll finally sink in that you're listening to alot of BS.

  It was an eye opener for me. It's just impossible to sit there and take it all in knowing what you now know.

  Paul
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  are 12 step programs a cult? Discuss..

  by avishai in

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  what qualities would you say they share w/ other high control groups?.

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  What do you now think Avishai? I'd be interested to know whether you feel AA/NA is a cult.

  Paul
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  Do you think you have an accent?

  by highdose in

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  apparently people ( like me) from the home counties of england don't have an accent, its just english...?.

  for the record i would say my accent is rather like kira knightly.

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  digderidoo

  I'm from Dudley, UK. Around here nobody has an accent, it's just that everybody who isn't from Dudley does.

  Paul