Posts by digderidoo

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Did Cedars manipulate Lee into having a thread closed?

by cedars in

i will happily answer this question if there can be some guarantees this thread won't be deleted..

digderidoo

Unlearn / digderidoo, if you are genuine about knowing my side of the faders-outing debacle, you can find it on this thread...

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/members/private/257368/1/The-Outing-of-Faders-and-the-Epilogue-of-Sic-Semper-Tyrannis#.UmdvtVNbPLY

I read your replys at the time and though haven't got the time, nor the inclination, to go through 15 pages again have just read some of them again. I acknowledge your repeated apologies but from what I saw during this whole debacle were qualified apologies, also requests for emails etc from the very people that your organisation outed ... a genuine apology to me is an unreserved one, though in my opinion an apology is not enough for the harm that you and your colleagues did. From what I recall it took many days after you were notified of the 'outing' issue for the Facebook group to be closed or changed to secret.

Note however I was not asking whether you now apologise, but whether you now bear any responsibility ... two very different things.

Any accusations of this being off topic, whilst I accept may not have anything to do with a locked thread, by bringing this the whole debacle up again you are re-opening old wounds. You come across as feeling as though it is YOU who has been treated badly in all this, that somehow YOU are getting the blame for something you didn't do and expect everyone here to maybe change their opinion of your actions ... maybe it's an ex jw thing or individual thing I do not know, but have some feelings for those you harmed.

All that I will add is that if you insist on bringing these matters up from a long time ago, then expect that by re-opening old wounds you and your colleagues unprofessional actions shall again come under scrutiny with so called 'off topic' questions and statements.

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Did Cedars manipulate Lee into having a thread closed?

by cedars in

i will happily answer this question if there can be some guarantees this thread won't be deleted..

digderidoo

I'd have thought a more important question is, does Cedars now bear any responsibility for the outing of faders on Facebook? Rather than a question about the locking of a thread from 6 months ago.

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Anyone want to guess the name of our future king

by barry in

jw
friends

my guess is henry.

digderidoo

Well it took William and Kate three weeks to decide the name of their Cocker Spaniel before settling on Lupo ... just saying.

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Video of admitted child molester in Jehovahs Witnesses has gone viral!

by disfellowshipped1 in

notice these two attorneys opining on this case.. http://watchtowerleaks.com/tagged/child-molestation.

digderidoo

Gone viral with 72 views?

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Should I send this letter to my non-JW cousin who refuses to listen to ANY criticism of our JW relatives?

by nicolaou in

some background here; non-jw family members who are overly respectful and protective of the jw's.. i thought i might try a completely different tactic.

what are your views on my letter below?

i thought i'd let it sit with her for a couple of weeks or more before following it up .

digderidoo

In my opinion, no you shouldn't.

They obviously have different views of the religion, if they held favourable views they would be JW's. I don't understand what you want to achieve? Sounds to me like your non-jw relatives just want a normal family relationship with their JW family, to them they probably love them whether or not they are JW's and the religion they belong to is largely irrelevant.

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What about the OUIJA board? anyone played it?

by Monsieur in

the ouija board is suppose to be a straight shot to interacting with 'demons'.. has anyone here played it?

what happened?

are the claims true regarding the floating pieces an such?.

digderidoo

Yes, i've seen things happen.

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Anyone in AA?

by love2Bworldly in

i just joined overeaters anonymous to deal with my eating issues.

has anyone joined aa & did it help you?

i just don't like how they tend to talk about god all the time.

digderidoo

I am in AA, sober for 3 years. It does work, though i had issues with the god thing at the beginning i soon came to learn that athiests and agnostics can work a 12 step program too.

My suggestion would be just to concentrate and read around step 1 before trying to comprehend the rest of the program.

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just support please

by Roberta804 in

i have had to make some very difficult decisions in recent days.

in one way i feel good about takeing care of myself and my mother who is on her dead bed in the room next to me.

mom has live with me since 2005 and started to make her journey to the other side on christmas day.

digderidoo

Roberta, my apologies if i spoke out of turn. You now whats best and sounds like you have her best interests at heart. I wish you well at this time.

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just support please

by Roberta804 in

i have had to make some very difficult decisions in recent days.

in one way i feel good about takeing care of myself and my mother who is on her dead bed in the room next to me.

mom has live with me since 2005 and started to make her journey to the other side on christmas day.

digderidoo

If it's what your mother wants and you think there may be some arguing or tension between her and her grandchildren, or you feel that by them discussing religion around her it isn't what she wants and would create further tension then you are doing the right thing.

But your posts seem to come from the angle that it is about you and your rules, along with your feelings on the way you have been treated by them. I may have it wrong and its just the way i read it, but to me not allowing them in (if she wants it) is stooping to their level of conditional love for family, maybe its a way you're gaining the upper hand or power over them again. Personally i believe there is more power in being dignified toward them.

One of my greatest memories is seeing my grandmother in her last few days surrounded by family, many children and many, many grandchildren. There is a split in our family, not JW related, but a split nonetheless ... yet in front of her this split was put aside for her. It was different in another part of the house where the split was evident, but in front of her, in her room, we all knew it was her last days and wanted to spend our last moments with her. Many of those moments she was laughing.

I'm sorry if i come across as harsh, that isn't my intention and i'll not post anymore on the matter or this thread as its obviously a difficult time, I just think in moments like this the focus should be about her last days and her family, rather than the focus being about whats going on between yourselves.

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just support please

by Roberta804 in

i have had to make some very difficult decisions in recent days.

in one way i feel good about takeing care of myself and my mother who is on her dead bed in the room next to me.

mom has live with me since 2005 and started to make her journey to the other side on christmas day.

digderidoo

I am sorry to hear of your situation.

My viewpoint is that you should allow the family to see her, unless she has stipulated that she doesn't want to see them. By doing that you would be rising above the way they have treated you in the past. I think you should examine your motives as to why you will not allow them to see her, whether it is out of concern for your mother or revenge and a way to get back at them for the way they have treated you. By having your mother living with you for the few years that she has, then surely there should be an expectation that she should see her grandchildren on her deathbed.

I really feel in this most difficult of times that you should put your anonymosity to one side and rise above the way have treated you in the past. At present you are just giving them the justification for the way they have treated you.

If i were on my deathbed i'd want to see my grandchildren.