Good thread. I have been researching this one today. Thanks for bumping it up still in 74
Paul
nabonidus -- 17 years.
nebuchadnezzar -- 43 years.
nabonidus -- 17 years
Good thread. I have been researching this one today. Thanks for bumping it up still in 74
Paul
this is the real truth.... .
http://www.bric.uk.com/index.html.
also read the proof that although correct in principle, the watchtower are in fact the evil slave class.. .
Ditto what others have said.
It needs breaking down into paragraphs. I got lost about 5 or 6 lines in.
Paul
well i said i wouldn't watch the game but i changed my mind.. ok it was only a friendly, but i have come here to gloat our victory.
usa were poor.. i was impressed with the england fans not booing the american national anthem, sung beautifully by kelly rowland.
a bit different to the ricky hatton fight in vegas.
As they stood side by side,
all hearts filled with pride,
England is what they cried,
...The reason why our forefathers fell,
was to teach the things we need to tell,
so live your life with English pride this way,
and celebrate this win today!!!
God Save the Queen!
Paul
well i said i wouldn't watch the game but i changed my mind.. ok it was only a friendly, but i have come here to gloat our victory.
usa were poor.. i was impressed with the england fans not booing the american national anthem, sung beautifully by kelly rowland.
a bit different to the ricky hatton fight in vegas.
Well i said i wouldn't watch the game but i changed my mind.
Ok it was only a friendly, but i have come here to gloat our victory. USA were poor.
I was impressed with the England fans not booing the American national anthem, sung beautifully by Kelly Rowland. A bit different to the Ricky Hatton fight in Vegas. Our fans are renowned for booing the oppositions anthem.
Anyway for now we have proved our superiority over the US football team.
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN ... Paul
in god s holy word the bible you can find evidence that god s kingdom was not established in 1914. and according to the prophecies it will be estblished later in the future.
and we can not calculate the time point.
in acts 1:7 the apostles asked " lord, are you restoring the kingdom to israel at this time?
Thanks JC, you've come up trumps. I haven't been to work today as i am reliant on the weather(pouring rain at mo), so i have been wasting away the day on the net. I have spent much time researching this today and at the end of it come away more confused than when i started.
You are right when you posted
YOU are doing well! The secret to this is just to look at ALL the theories. Don't listen to me. Don't listen to anybody. Hear all the arguments and then make up your own mind.
It seems to me that with history nothing is set in stone, so to speak. There are far to many discrepencies for there to be one true answer, i have looked at the evidence and came away with 'i don't know', but it's a don't know based on knowledge rather than ignorance.
Thanks for your response.
Paul
this will make you laugh.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufuw6htvuss&feature=related.
paul.
i came in to the "loving" organization when they had the nasty cold food so i dont know how good the hot cooked food was.
my ex says it was pretty good, but should i have belived her?
i would think hot food made for a happier time at least for the eaters.. brzfst.
You can't beat the Punjabi Assemblies in Britain for the food!
I used to love going to Dudley and helping out, Samosa, Pakora, Curries, mmm. Plenty of left overs at the end of the weekend.
Paul
the following scriptures given show the reasons why i cannot worship the god of the bible.
call him jehovah, yahweh, yhwh, lord, father, jesus, whatever you will.
the passages are taken from the new world translation, because we are all familiar with it and also it was the only one i really had at hand.. gen 3:16 ... " to the woman he said: 'i shall greatly increase the pain of your pregnancy; in birth pangs you will bring forth children, and your craving will be for your husband, and he will dominate you.
Perry, the first line of my post is arguing that although you agree that christians do not have a monopoly on morals, you then go on to argue the exact opposite. What is it? Either Christians are the only one with morals or we are all born with them and know the value of right or wrong without having to look to the bible for our guidance.
Why is an atheist at the the centre of his own introverted world view?Because the atheist makes a statement of premise to himself that he cannot possible know to be true, and then based on that false (at least unverifiable) premise proceeds to construct a logic that deposits relative moral truth within himself.
Of course, the atheist just plays word games with himself. Not only can the relativist atheist not live up to even his own truth, thus requiring the need to move the definition of what is good to new lows to accomodate the reality that he finds himself in, he must also change the reality of what is just his opinion, into the word "truth", as if that simple word change recharacterizes the overall moral character of his "principles".
What do you call 'relative' moral truth? Atheists have moral values, again you are arguing that only if you follow the bible can you have morals.
Paul
the following scriptures given show the reasons why i cannot worship the god of the bible.
call him jehovah, yahweh, yhwh, lord, father, jesus, whatever you will.
the passages are taken from the new world translation, because we are all familiar with it and also it was the only one i really had at hand.. gen 3:16 ... " to the woman he said: 'i shall greatly increase the pain of your pregnancy; in birth pangs you will bring forth children, and your craving will be for your husband, and he will dominate you.
Not at all Paul. Even with God, man has a sense of right and wrong. Of course, the sociologist will tell you in no uncertain terms that man can be socialized into doing most anything. I agree. But, I would interject that the innateness must be overcome first.
So according to you then christians you agree, do not have the monopoly on morality, but then why do you go on to say...
Moral truth doesn't originate with man, but Jesus told us what truth is on the cross.
and you said...
This fact is what drives atheists to the brink of insanity in their insistence that good and evil is relative.
You go on to say...
because they are at the center of their own introverted worldview.
Why is an atheist at the the centre of his own introverted world view?
Paul
the following scriptures given show the reasons why i cannot worship the god of the bible.
call him jehovah, yahweh, yhwh, lord, father, jesus, whatever you will.
the passages are taken from the new world translation, because we are all familiar with it and also it was the only one i really had at hand.. gen 3:16 ... " to the woman he said: 'i shall greatly increase the pain of your pregnancy; in birth pangs you will bring forth children, and your craving will be for your husband, and he will dominate you.
That's why man's plight is so utterly terrible. Not only can he see nothing but his own vanity, he is also possessed with the knowledge of Good and Evil.
This fact is what drives atheists to the brink of insanity in their insistence that good and evil is relative. Moral relativeism is a maladaptive attempt to bridge the gap between reality and desire.
Christians do not have a monopoly on morality, which is what you seem to be suggesting.
Paul