i'm talking about one you can have a beer with, talk to, etc.
one that won't snub you no matter what.
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Yeah i did.
Stuck by me through thick and thin, always said if i ever got disfellowshipped he wouldn't stop talking to me. Continued his association with me after i faded, much to the disgust of some.
Eventually he faded, we are still best friends and have been since we were 14, some 25 years ago.
Paul
it's called "jehovah's witness facebook forum".
check it out could be interesting........................ .
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=51298429787#/group.php?gid=51298429787.
I have only posted a couple of non bashing posts.
I kinda like my anonimity here so will say anything. How bizarre that 14 years on i still will not show my face.
Paul
luke 23:42,43 (nwt)42"and he went on to say:'jesus remember me when you get into your kingdom.
' 43 and he said to him:' truly i tell you today, you will be with me in paradise.
in placing the comma after the word today, jesus is not as other translations interpret it saying he will be with him in paradise on that day.. .
bumping for a title
it's called "jehovah's witness facebook forum".
check it out could be interesting........................ .
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=51298429787#/group.php?gid=51298429787.
I'm curious who do you think would shut it down?
The admin. It is run by JW's.
luke 23:42,43 (nwt)42"and he went on to say:'jesus remember me when you get into your kingdom.
' 43 and he said to him:' truly i tell you today, you will be with me in paradise.
in placing the comma after the word today, jesus is not as other translations interpret it saying he will be with him in paradise on that day.. .
Could a mod add a title to this thread as i cannot get back into it to edit it, thanks.
Soemthing along the lines of 'Luke 23:43..Truly i tell you today, you will be with me in paradise ? '
Thanks Paul
luke 23:42,43 (nwt)42"and he went on to say:'jesus remember me when you get into your kingdom.
' 43 and he said to him:' truly i tell you today, you will be with me in paradise.
in placing the comma after the word today, jesus is not as other translations interpret it saying he will be with him in paradise on that day.. .
Luke 23:42,43 (NWT)42"And he went on to say:'Jesus remember me when you get into your kingdom.' 43 And he said to him:' Truly i tell you today, You will be with me in Paradise.' "
In placing the comma after the word today, Jesus is not as other translations interpret it saying he will be with him in paradise on that day.
Other translations,
(NIV)42Then he said, "Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.[a]"
43Jesus answered him, "I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise"
(NASB)42And he was saying, "Jesus, remember me when You come in Your kingdom!" 43And He said to him, "Truly I say to you, today you shall be with Me in (A)Paradise."
(KJV)42And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom. 43And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.
In the NWT placing a comma between today and You in Jesus' response, which gives a very different meaning to the scripture.
I have come across this argument to my surprise, that Jesus is recorded in the gospels as using the phrase "I tell you the truth" or "truly I tell you", in the NWT 78 times. Not once, not even in a single instance in the NWT is Jesus recorded as using the phrase "I tell you the truth today", or "truly I tell you today".
So my question is this, if in the NWT Jesus has never used the phrase "truly i tell you today", but 78 times said ,"truly i tell you", why in this one instance, would the NWT place the comma after the word today, in so doing giving an alternative meaning of Jesus' words?
Surely it's just to fit into WT doctrine of resurrection of the dead to an earthly paradise?
Paul
i have to enter a room full of em!.
my kids have gone with my mother to a congregation party.
apparently there will be line dancing, barn dancing, scottish dancing, you know the normal way they party hard..... anyway they wanted to go, for the food i think, so i wasn't going to stop them.. but i have to enter that room tonight to collect them.. pray for me.... paul.
I'm fairly certain there was a blessing lol ... oh well didn't spoil the taste
Paul
and in a kinda funny way........this friend of mine.......who is very close friend of my df'd son and is much younger than me.....he has been dfd for ten years and shunned by his family and really reall misses them......and has been in a longterm gay relationship and i always felt bad for him because there is almost no way to come back in...then fade...if you are in a gay relationship.......so anyway he has heard me trashtalk wt a ton...and seemed to have zero problem with that and griped about his wt issues...... so i call him the other day and immediately respond with some comment about the damm cult.......we he says," wow oompa you prob don't know but i am going to all the meetings again!!
so i am just snap....."wow, that is amazing...i had no idea....are you just going back for family...and then try to fade?
" which is what i just knew had to be the case....and i even mentioned how that would be hard to do with his partner all it would be discovered.......get this....."oompa, i am doing this for me and not my family......they don't even know i am going so don't say anything"........so i am in shock and the more we talk the happier he sounds about da troof....and i mean he is like filled with the holy ghost......so i mentioned how many things we have talked about that they teach that we both dissagree about.......and he says he know they prob have some things wrong but all religions do.
Sorry to hear about that oompa, hope all goes well.
Don't suppose you have that list do you? Not that i want to report you or anything lol would be interested as to what they are, 45 of them wow.
Paul
i have to enter a room full of em!.
my kids have gone with my mother to a congregation party.
apparently there will be line dancing, barn dancing, scottish dancing, you know the normal way they party hard..... anyway they wanted to go, for the food i think, so i wasn't going to stop them.. but i have to enter that room tonight to collect them.. pray for me.... paul.
There was some spicy Indian type snacks in the doggy bag free, and a couple of slices of gateau. Think it was meant for the kids but i ate them, told them i felt as if i missed out so they felt sorry for me lol Oh well, my daughter is very picky with her food anyway as you well know lol
Paul
i have to enter a room full of em!.
my kids have gone with my mother to a congregation party.
apparently there will be line dancing, barn dancing, scottish dancing, you know the normal way they party hard..... anyway they wanted to go, for the food i think, so i wasn't going to stop them.. but i have to enter that room tonight to collect them.. pray for me.... paul.
Well i survived.
As i pulled on the car park of the village hall i could see that the scottish dancing was about to start. Damn, i thought, the high point of the night.
Anyway i walked into the foyer and first of all i saw sister depressive, we'll call her. She was sitting in the foyer as she doesn't like crowds. "hello, how lovely to see you" she says. I exchange pleasentries, then try to get my kids attention without actually going into the hall. Luckily, or should i say fortunately, my son saw me. While waiting for them, who should spot me but elder sister groper, you kow the type, depressive wife, you just know he aint getting it at home, so he hugs all the sisters.
Anyway elder sister groper makes a bee line for me, shakes my hand, 'how are you?' he says, 'lovely to see you', yeah right, then why do you walk past me in the street i thought. He stands there without much to say. Then looking at me is sister reinstated, she doesn't come over to my shock. How many times did i speak to you when i saw you, before your reinstatement i thought. Didn't really expect her to speak though.
Then who should come into the foyer to talk to sister depressive but sister always happy, she ignored me for a bit, then says "hello digderidoo, didn't see you standing there", yeah right i've been 2 feet from you for at least 3 minutes.
Anyway i gathered my kids, survived the ordeal and even came out with a doggy bag! Can't be all bad. Phew!!
Paul
