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Financial Help.

by Yizuman in

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hit my posting limit and am using my second account..... i don't know if anyone can help or not.. but i am in a desprate situation whereas i have to swallow my pride and seek out some help.. i am behind rent as well as my morgage ( i own a moble home on a lot rent).. need food as well.. phone needs to stay in service since i am deaf and need it as part my text communication for hopes of landing a better job.

sister can email me to let me know if a employer calls, so i can drive over and find out what's up from there.. i work at wal-mart and alot of us have our hours cut to 20+ hrs a week, so this is hurting me fianacially.. job hunts is hard since i am deaf since most employers seems to prefer hiring a hearing person.. i know of a deaf friend who is unemployed and he went thru 20 job interviews in a month.

none of them ever called or emailed him to say he got a job.. family can't help since they all have their own problems to deal with.. i can post all the info you need if anyone needs it, such as my landlord's address and my morgage address if anyone wants to mail a check directly to them.

nameless_one

LOL. This thread was bumped because of a much more recent thread along the same lines :-)

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Financial Help.

by Yizuman in

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hit my posting limit and am using my second account..... i don't know if anyone can help or not.. but i am in a desprate situation whereas i have to swallow my pride and seek out some help.. i am behind rent as well as my morgage ( i own a moble home on a lot rent).. need food as well.. phone needs to stay in service since i am deaf and need it as part my text communication for hopes of landing a better job.

sister can email me to let me know if a employer calls, so i can drive over and find out what's up from there.. i work at wal-mart and alot of us have our hours cut to 20+ hrs a week, so this is hurting me fianacially.. job hunts is hard since i am deaf since most employers seems to prefer hiring a hearing person.. i know of a deaf friend who is unemployed and he went thru 20 job interviews in a month.

none of them ever called or emailed him to say he got a job.. family can't help since they all have their own problems to deal with.. i can post all the info you need if anyone needs it, such as my landlord's address and my morgage address if anyone wants to mail a check directly to them.

nameless_one

Sam, have you noted the date of the original post? This thread is 7 years old.

And yes I imagine plenty of people have done that yet. Just a guess.

No one's stopping you from sending $10 or $100 or $1000. But I don't think anyone should be guilted into doing that.

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Financial Help.

by Yizuman in

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hit my posting limit and am using my second account..... i don't know if anyone can help or not.. but i am in a desprate situation whereas i have to swallow my pride and seek out some help.. i am behind rent as well as my morgage ( i own a moble home on a lot rent).. need food as well.. phone needs to stay in service since i am deaf and need it as part my text communication for hopes of landing a better job.

sister can email me to let me know if a employer calls, so i can drive over and find out what's up from there.. i work at wal-mart and alot of us have our hours cut to 20+ hrs a week, so this is hurting me fianacially.. job hunts is hard since i am deaf since most employers seems to prefer hiring a hearing person.. i know of a deaf friend who is unemployed and he went thru 20 job interviews in a month.

none of them ever called or emailed him to say he got a job.. family can't help since they all have their own problems to deal with.. i can post all the info you need if anyone needs it, such as my landlord's address and my morgage address if anyone wants to mail a check directly to them.

nameless_one

I don't think anyone here is "kicking him in the nuts when he's down," and I've also not seen anyone here laugh at his wife's condition or laugh about his wife crying. I have a lot of sympathy and empathy for his wife, on a number of levels.

Pointing out a person's longstanding posting history is not an attack. It is an observation, and personally I think it's a valid one. The point being made is that there is a 7-year history of many, many sad stories from this poster, most of them with the undercurrent of "I need money."

There are a lot of hurt and damaged people here, and a lot of people in very dire straits. Sad stories are not a new thing around here, there are thousands of them, and there is a lot of support given and received on this site. Most of the support given and received is not financial in nature though, and especially not chronically so.

When an individual makes a habit, over a period of years and years, of posting many sad stories that mostly have the read-between-the-lines message "I need money," well kudos to long-timers who point that out for the sake of newer posters who may not know. That's not judgmentmal, it's prudent.

No one is beating up on Yizuman, though he sure had some nasty words for Deceived earlier.

Let the reader use discernment. I think that's all anyone is saying.

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I need answers to so MANY questions.....

by Confuzzled in

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nameless_one

I said my piece a couple of pages ago, and while threads like this frustrate me to no end, I'm trying not to repeat myself. BUT there are a few things I just can't stop myself from responding to (and I guess I'm the biggest killjoy of the bunch).

First, I get it. Believe me, I get it, and I understand why you're thinking and feeling the way you are. But you have a child -- a child who is not this man's daughter, and in that you are very fortunate. You have freely admitted that this guy is wracked with guilt and self-loathing, looking for punishment, unable to reason, defensive about insane beliefs, wanting you to join him in that insanity, angry and rude when called on the most innocuous questions, on and on. How is this a good man to bring into your life as a husband/father? Make no mistake, whether YOU join up or not, the WTS will be a HUGE part of your life; it will rule your life because it will rule your man's mind.

You have been told directly in this and other threads what to expect from this cult. And you've read other resources too that all say the same thing. But you still consider marrying this guy, making him your child's stepfather, because you "don't want to give up on him" since it would be "un-Christian" to do so?

PLEASE think about this, and please BELIEVE what people are telling you. I do understand how and why a woman would get sucked into this mess and think her JW was different. I did the exact same thing. But you have a child -- why in the world is it okay to risk her well-being for the sake of "not giving up on" an unstable and irrational man who will almost certainly make your family life a nightmare? This I do not understand.

Like I and others said before (and you have admitted to understanding!), you are in for a world of hurt unless this man wakes up and walks away from the WTS with eyes wide open. And it sounds like that is not the way things are heading, not by a long-shot. A guilt-ridden, lapsed JW wanting to get back into the fold and drag you with him is a toxic mess that will blow up in your face. And the thing is -- he is even telling you this himself in his words and actions! Listen to what he is telling you.

You said this guy was first your friend, then he was your boyfriend, now he's a potential husband. If you are dead-set on trying to wake him up, why not do that as his friend -- ditch the romance part unless and until he wakes up. You don't have to cut him out of your life, just be his friend. If he was the biological father of your child, things would be different (and more complicated). If you marry him, things WILL become complex to a bad degree. If you're not willing to just walk away, at least consider putting the brakes on the romance/marriage part.

Please don't do this to yourself, or your CHILD. Please believe the things you have read and are reading!

I am very sorry to be so blunt and harsh, but I think you have no clue what you're really getting into, and a child in the mix makes that doubly alarming. I am bowing out of this thread now, but I really hope you will change your thoughts about how to deal with this. You don't want to still be here years from now begging others not to make the mistakes you did. And you don't want your daughter showing up here down the road for help in recovering either.

PS - JWs lie. It is ingrained, and nothing he tells you about concessions and compromises he will make for you can be taken at face value. If you're not in, you're out, and Theocratic Warfare applies. You and your child will be living on a slippery and secretive slope. Never forget that fact.

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I need answers to so MANY questions.....

by Confuzzled in

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nameless_one

Welcome, Confuzzled. I know your story all too well.

I too was raised Episcopalian. I too got involved with a "lapsed JW" man. I too got the constant runaround about valid questions, and the pleading to talk with other JWs who could "answer better" (do NOT agree to that btw). And I too came to this board and others seeking help and advice.

Here is my advice to you, harsh and blunt but the best advice you will receive: RUN. Run like the freaking wind and don't look back.

The only way this has a chance in hell of turning out well for you is if your man wakes up and sees the WTS for exactly what it is. There is no in-between. There is no escape for him unless he SEES and REALIZES that it is a cult and a sham and NOT the truth. Anything less than that, you are sitting on a powder keg. And that is a process much more easier said than done.

When I first came here, people told me to run. They told me to get out, they told me how these things end up 99% of the time, they told me exactly what I'm telling you. I didn't listen. My man was different; he was on the fence; he was so great in so many ways, there was just this "one issue" and I was sure I could help him see the light. I spent 6 years of my life trying to wake him up. SIX YEARS. He didn't wake up. I finally got some sense and left. And it was a nightmare. It still is a nightmare -- a lot of damage has been done, and finally extracting myself from this has been difficult to say the least (this coming from someone who never set foot in a KH, never bought into the lie in any way, but just attempted to extract someone else from it).

I rarely post here, or anywhere, anymore because my life has become very difficult since trying to walk away from this mess. I made good friends in this community whom I miss very much (you know who you are -- I miss and love you guys), but I've lost even that now because of the complete disaster this cult and one of its "lapsed followers" has made of my life. I'm posting to your thread because I see myself in you and truly hope you will be smarter than I was and RUN while it's still early. If you never have to suffer through what I did, you won't fully understand the bullet you dodged but believe me your life will be so much better for it.

My heart goes out to you (and your child!! if you need another reason to run away fast, there it is. Your child will not come out unscathed if you marry this man). I expect you might do what I did -- think you can fix it, want to try, then try and try and try. Please don't make the mistakes I did. Read everything you can get your hands on about what this cult really does to people, and BELIEVE what you read. Your man is not different -- so long as he believes it is the "truth," he is not different. If you can't do it for yourself, do it for your child.

Sorry to be harsh, but the best and only advice I can give you is RUN, the sooner the better.

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Bizarre news

by TheOldHippie in

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home circumcision of 4-year-old ends in conviction.. source: cbc newsposted: 10/16/09 12:38pmfiled under: canadaa vancouver-area father has been found guilty of negligence causing bodily harm after botching a home-circumcision attempt on his four-year-old son as part of a spiritual quest to make things right with god.. the bizarre case centred on a battle over the religious freedoms of the former jehovah's witness, who was trying to follow a literal interpretation of the bible after a series of misfortunes hit his family.. during the trial, the b.c.

supreme court heard that after a bad motorcycle accident in 2002 left both the man and his wife with brain injuries, he began the religious quest that eventually led him to believe that both he and son needed to be circumcised to celebrate passover.. the man, identified only as d.j.w.

to protect the identity of his son, began researching home circumcision on the internet and in the bible, and by listening to a radio show.. his first attempt to circumcise himself ended up with his foreskin turning black and only part of it cut off.

nameless_one

I know; it is such a tragic story - but I cannot stop laughing. It is the way it is written as well. I mean, the sentence "The boy spent the next few days walking with his legs wide apart" - I know I should be sympathetic and cry on his behalf - but I end up laughing. I regret my wickedness.

Yeah, a four-year-old child who can't walk because his lunatic father disfigured his genitals with a razor blade and "Wonder Dust" meant for horses is so hilarious.

What is wrong with you??

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Looking for name of a show from when I was a kid: Marionettes flying around in a wooden rocket ship

by Elsewhere in

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the other day some friends and i were talking about shows we liked when we were kids.

one show i absolutely loved when i was a kid, but cannot remember the name, was about some kids who would fly around in a tall wooden rocket ship.

the characters were all marionettes on strings and the ship looked like it was cobbled together will bits and pieces of scrap wood with a cone on the top.. i think it aired in the 1970's or 1980's.

nameless_one

It's funny, I knew exactly what he was talking about when I read the post. I loved that show too! I didn't remember it as being creepy at all, but yeah after watching that YouTube it definitely is lol.

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Looking for name of a show from when I was a kid: Marionettes flying around in a wooden rocket ship

by Elsewhere in

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the other day some friends and i were talking about shows we liked when we were kids.

one show i absolutely loved when i was a kid, but cannot remember the name, was about some kids who would fly around in a tall wooden rocket ship.

the characters were all marionettes on strings and the ship looked like it was cobbled together will bits and pieces of scrap wood with a cone on the top.. i think it aired in the 1970's or 1980's.

nameless_one

It was "Vegetable Soup"! The ship one was called the Outerscope.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRcNIqrZ6KI

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just a few questions I don't want to ask directly hell

by Janey214 in

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hello - first may i apologise for capital letters my keyboard has gone screwy.

for the last several months i have been having meetings with two really nice women from the jw organisation.

i don't want to offend anyone by asking these questions i am simply trying to better understand how the watchtower came about without listening to too much anti stuff.

nameless_one

Hi Janey, and welcome :-)

I've not seen the JWFacts site suggested yet, so I recommend you take a look at the vast information available there -- www.jwfacts.com. You will find much information about the origins of the JWs, and specific info regarding your questions about Russell, Beth Sarim, etc.

Part of the problem you're running into with your study conductors is that typical JWs generally don't even know their own history. That is actively discouraged, in fact -- the past is written off as "old light" and the rank-and-file members are strongly discouraged from looking too closely at the organization's history. So you're not likely to get informed, straightforward answers from the ladies who are studying with you. The good news is that your own independent research will tell you all that you want and need to know. jwfacts.com is an excellent place to start.

As for the 144,000, the JW teaching is that Christ is the mediator only for those. All others, do not have Christ as their mediator. It is unusual that your study conductors told you this upfront; many JWs don't even fully realize it, much less admit it to "outsiders."

Independent research is a very good thing, and it's great that you're asking so many intelligent questions and not looking to get baptised any time soon. Keep doing that :-)

Again, welcome

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In need of...

by CandleSurgeon in

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if anyone has extra song-books, nwt bibles, reasoning books ect and would be willing to mail it to me please let me know.

i don't really like reading stuff on the screen all the time and i have an upcoming youtube project that i would really like hard copies of these for.

also does anyone know a good way i can get the current watchtowers with the study article on a regular basis?

nameless_one

CS, I'm sending you a PM.

nameless_one

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