Posts by serotonin

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Helping the friends in time of need

by architect in

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is it proper to annonce in the congregation by the use of flyers to raise money thru a garage sale to help those in need in the congregation?

serotonin_wraith

Only if all money goes to the WTS so that their spiritual need can be taken care of first of all.

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Do you feel as if you're eternal or temporary?

by JH in

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we were all taught that we would live eternally and we all beleived it.. how do you feel now?

i still beleive i'll be here in 1000000000000 years eating poutine and drinking beer.

serotonin_wraith

Temporary. Always have felt that way, even being raised as a JW I thought I'd be killed off cos of how I thought. Now temporary from old age and death.

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Is the light getting brighter?

by leftbelow in

do the wbts understand anything better today then they did 10 or 20 years ago other then they have been wrong alot?

I think that it may not be a few people high up deliberately lying and keeping their true intentions secret to get people to join (could be, who knows?), I honestly think alot of the high ups believe in it, and they believe in it so much they keep putting the date back just that little bit, because they'd probably have a breakdown if it ever registered with them that their last prediction felt SOOOO REAL too. New light looks alot like delusion. A certain kind of delusion (self backing? self fortifying? I can't think of the term now...)

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SO, What happened to : "the generation will not pass away" idea ???????

by The_Replacement in

okay, growing up a jw in the 70's 80's and early 90's, all we heard about was how the generation of 1914 will not pass away,(much like witnesses in the 60's and early 70's all heard about 1975) (what a great parallel) conventions, watchtower articles, public talks, endless studies and of course every issue of the awake magazine had it on the inside cover, it was everywhere, brothers, sisters and elders were absolutely sure about this, the society constantly mentioned it in our kingdom ministry (service), it was everywhere.

then with the change in november 1995, it just kinda disappeared and became unimportant.. does the society even mention "this generation will not pass away" anymore ?????.

seems to me, that the past 10 years, it has hardly been mentioned anywhere anymore.. what do you think ??

serotonin_wraith

I remember mentioning to my dad (I must have been about 14) I'd seen in a non-JW magazine or book that the JWs had made false predictions about the time the end would come, and he told me that no such claims were made, but that I could find out myself by looking through some old publications. Of course I wasn't going to go through hundreds of old Watchtowers or books to see if it was said or not so I kinda just took his word for it. But this 1914 generation not all dying claim, this one I remember being made. I remember it vividly being told to me by my dad, in one of his failed attempts to try and get me baptized. I still thought they believed that until now, so if that's changed now that time is moving beyond their predictions, it's the first one I can see for what it is, because I lived through it, and no one can say to me the claim wasn't made. I missed the whole 1975 one, but this one I now know for a fact was one great big lie, and it's totally removed all doubts now that they mislead to entice more people to join up. Isn't it funny how 'new light' doesn't actually come into effect until AFTER the time passes. They're never going to say 'the end will be in 2010' and then in 2008 change their mind. They'll say they had new inspiration from God in 2010 about it being a bit later, but not much so hurry up and join.

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Did I miss something? Is this the new resolution at the D.Convention?

by Star Moore in

1. we are determined to intensify our preaching activity.

2. to live up to our dedication to jehovah and give him exclusive devotion.

3. to follow jesus' example closely and be no part of the world.

serotonin_wraith

Would anyone actually be surprised if it did turn out to be true?

I wouldn't.

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Thunderstorms: Scare You Now?

by serotonin_wraith in

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i'm fine with storms now but before if i was sleeping and thunder woke me up i'd automatically think this could be the end.. i know an exjw now who gets nervous if there's a storm, she hasn't been able to break free completely from that childhood belief in the back of her mind.. how about you?

serotonin_wraith

I'm fine with storms now but before if I was sleeping and thunder woke me up I'd automatically think this could be the end.

I know an exjw now who gets nervous if there's a storm, she hasn't been able to break free completely from that childhood belief in the back of her mind.

How about you?

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WHAT MAKES EX-JW'S UNIQUE TO CREATE A DISCUSSION FORUM LIKE THIS?

by hopie in

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there are millions world wide leaving their centuries old organized religions, why are ex-jw's joining together to create a fellowship and support system?.

are we the forerunners of something big?.

do we share something unique and don't know it?

serotonin_wraith

Auldsoul, your fish story is great. I really like that.

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Is there corelation? (probably for believers in Christ & Gospel here)

by Shazard in

is there corelation between prayer for lost jw friend/relative and his/her time until he/she realizes that wt is lie.

i see that some of people come out after 20-30-40 yaers... but how long it takes for those who are being backed up by prayers!

i am asking just to know if there is pattern... how long i have to pray for my brother?

serotonin_wraith

If your God is loving why would he wait until people pray for someone before helping them, instead of doing so anyway, if it it is his divine wisdom to do so with that particular individual and not others?

But my own view is: If someone leaves the WTS, you can think it happened due to prayer if you like, but more likely it came from their own choices and from what they've seen in life. The reason some people leave after a year and others take 50 years, or never leave, is because it's more random than being prayer related. A graph showing the correlation between hours spent in prayer and the number of years people stay involved for every exjw is going to look like a star chart with dots all over the place.

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