Welcome!
j
i've been lurking here and reading for a couple of months now.
i was also a jw for a few years but got myself dfed when i started asking difficult questions, wouldn't stop asking them, and kept pointing out how the wts didn't make any sense.
i am an unrepentent rebellious one who was warned and publically reproved until finally i finally had it out with the elders and they showed me the door.
Welcome!
j
the witnesses are always trying to scare the faithful by telling them that if they don't adhere to the teachings and lifestyle of the brotherhood-----that bad things are going to happen to them.
for example, they might tell you of brother regret who left the "truth", had "fun" in the "world" and then got aids.
now he's back in the "truth" but he only has months to live................can you think of other examples of how the witnesses try to spook the rank and file?
And yet the Society or local KHs would have no problem buying an old church and converting it for their own use.
Hell, they converted an old masonic temple in Paterson, NJ.
j
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our congregation had some of the best circuit overseers money could buy!.
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I remeber one two that I actually liked. Two that seemed like ex-career military personel, and the rest were pretty much just had no personality, (at best), to annoying, (at worst).
j
Anyone care to comment on the CO's wives???
the october 15th watchtower gives advice on social gatherings.
try not to throw up or pee your pants laughing at some of the advice!.
'paragraph 5 page 24.. 'many hosts have faced the issue of whether to serve alcoholic beverages.
It sounds like they are just getting worse and worse! How do they keep anybody?
I don't know how long you have been out, but I can assure you, it has become much worse. People are burnt out with this kind of stuff. I've said this before, if org keeps up the way they are controlling people, it will implode on iteslf. They won't need anyone to take them down.
j
i find this forum immensely therapeutic.
posters here have helped me with personal issues as well as historical, religious, evolutionary, etc.
i think this is the best psychiatric forum for xjws anywhere, kinda like my own personal shrink!.
Very theraputic and healthy place. Makes leaving the borg much easier to handle, (not that there's much negative to that anyway).
j
As a teenager, constantly, always for stupid things, such as playing tackle football. It stopped pretty much as an adult, until I began to have trouble in my marriage. Then I left.
j
i think everyone has a bs detector, but not everyone utilizes theirs, or ignores its warnings.. i find that mine seems very sensitive and unless i "feel" sincerity from the person i am sizing up, my bs detector has various levels of "alert" mode.. in "yellow alert" mode, i tend to be very guarded with personal information until the individual's behaviour identifies whether i should maintain that status quo or not.
this seems to be my default setting, i think, because i tend to use it with all new people i encounter.. in "orange alert" mode, there's something about the person that just is not meshing with me.
they may be trying to cross a boundary that i do not want them to cross, like bestowing a nickname on me without asking me if i'm ok with it first.
I think that many of us had much better detectors than we thought; but we didn't listen to them.
My thoughts exactly. In jwland, it was almost as if you weren't allowed to use it.
j
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i saw something on this subject a few years ago in a publication from brooklyn but can't find it now.
it referred to the 8/1/80 wt about what the greek word for apostasy really means, 'a standing away from', but showed that a person didn't have to share what he believed that differed from what the society taught to be df'd for it.. blondie!
I'm sure it's a fine line, but not likely. One would be more likely to be considered d/a'd by action, (ex. getting involved in politics). In the end it is the same thing, especially these days, as the announcement from the platform is the same "so and so is no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses".
j
i had a lesion removed from my right cheek, just below the eye and to the right of my nose a week ago yesterday.
doc did it in the office and indicated he did not think it was malignant - but sop requires a path test to confirm.
it was malignant i was told today.
My thoughts are with you, Jeff. Don't worry excessively about it, the important thing is you already went to the doctor, and are getting it taken care of. Most skin cancers are highly treatable, and don't require long-term care, (ie chemo).
j
recently ive been doing a lot of research on judicial committees, as my friend is currently going through one, as mentioned here: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/118972/1.ashx
i just posted an update.
one thing ive noticed in my research, is that there is no scriptural support to back up the judicial committee system.
All I can say is, until you've been the subject of one, you can't believe FOR SURE that they are all that bad. I can honestly tell you, when it occurs to you that those three elders have the ability to take your ENTIRE life away, (somtimes WANTING TO), you would be scared shit too. That experience spoke VOLUMES to me.
j