Therefore, mature, experienced brothers and sisters who have benefited from Bethel training are being assigned to the field where they will be able to contribute much to the preaching and disciple-making work.
That's just plain sick.
j
every september, at the beginning of the jw "service year", a letter to publishers is printed in the km.
this letter addresses recent layoffs at bethel:.
our kingdom ministry september 2006 (for united states of america), page 1. dear kingdom publishers:.
Therefore, mature, experienced brothers and sisters who have benefited from Bethel training are being assigned to the field where they will be able to contribute much to the preaching and disciple-making work.
That's just plain sick.
j
my folks studied in the sixties but never were baptized.
they enforced the no xmas and holidays in general but stopped attending the meetings after about three years.
my mom was baptized in 1990, dad still isn't.
I was taught "the truth" from about 1978, (at age 5) when my mother started studying with the jws. My father was actually the one who started the discussions with the witnesses, but never came in. Mom didn't get baptized until 1986, and was never "strong". She was df by 1995. However, all the rules applied, from age 5 on up. No holidays, birthdays, dances, MTV, etc. When I was old enough, at age 15 I decided to get baptized on my own. This was largely out of guilt. Having "weak" parents is really a double whammi in the org, because you are automatically looked down at in the org because of your parents supposed "weaknesses". Making friends in the org was not easy as a teenager because of this. Definately sucked.
j
the watchtower and the deciding factors
can you recall the very first inner voices of doubt that.
you carried about the watchtower society?
Actually, for me, LEARNING of the 1975 thing was quite a shock. I only first heard this from a friend around 1991 or so. I had been brought up in the org, family in since '78. I could not believe this could NEVER have been brought up in those 13 years I've been associated. I didn't believe it at first, but my source was reliable. Something was fishy in dub land. That was the beginning, it would take me almost 15 years to actually leave after that point.
j
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i am planning a european vacation, can anyone recommend a hotel in paris, that is close to cdg airport, doesn't have to be all that nice but safe, clean and cheap.
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I just stayed at the Hilton right by the CDG. Very Nice, and you can walk to the RER to get into the city.
j
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my first cars were all "manual" and they were small cars, cheap on gas.. then later on in life, i spoiled myself and bought automatic cars.. last week, i tried a manual yaris, and wasn't that comfortable with the manual transmission.
maybe it's the fact that i didn't drive a manual car in 6 years.. just wondering if anyone here after driving automatic transmission cars since many years, if you would come back to manual..
Honestly, if manuals were available in more cars, (I drive an '06 Impala SS, no manual option), I would get one.
j
i posted last week about wanting ideas to bring up for a visit from my old teacher and her elder husband.
the visit went awesome, they only managed to stay for 3 1/2 hours then made up a lame excuse and bolted out of here as fast as they could.
i am very grateful for the responses i recieved, although we never made it to those issues, i didn't get a chance.
The Elder then proceeded to empathise with my situation back then, and beings I was under great stress, if I had gone out drinking, got drunk, had a one-night stand, but was repentant and came forward right away, nothing but a good talking to would have happened and I would have then been scriptually free from the marriage as I would have commited adultery. I asked what would have happened had I did what I did, which was meeting my fiance and respecting myself and him as well by waiting for "relations" until I felt ready, which wasn't for about 6 months after we met, but I don't feel repentant over it, and I continue on with the relationship? He said, well, then I would have been disfellowshipped
Sad but true snarf. Incidentally, this was the very thing that made me come to my senses and say WTF???
j
i'm getting married in a couple of weeks and my mother is under alot of pressure not to go because i've been living with my fiance.
my 3 jw sisters are not attending the wedding and i feel that my mum will be under continued pressure not to have contact with me after the wedding.
so i'm thinking of a plan... what if i went back to the meetings just so that my mum can feel 'ok' about having contact with me and so she can tell my sisters to back off.
If it is known that you are living with your fiance, you will be facing a judicial comittee. And most likely a disfellowshipping. Just saw it happen. Said it shows a pattern of wrongdoing and no repentance.
That will happen, no getting around it.
As far as going back goes, IF you can stomach the above then maybe, but I think that defeats the purpose.
j
my friend marion, who i've posted about on here, was announced at last nights meeting as being no longer one of jehovahs witnesses.
she sent a da letter in recently, and of course the elders tried to get her to change her mind, but she insisted, and threatened to forward a copy to the uk hq, so they made the announcement.. she had a phone call from her jw son just now, and not a pleasant one at that.
he asked her how she could be so stupid, and told her that this was the last call of any kind he would be making to her, and she won't be allowed to see her grandchildren again until she comes to her senses.
FDN, Please give her support, and let her know were thinking of her. Also, tell her to come to JWD.
j
so... i finally have thought about somethings that i want to say in my letter to disassociate... in my last topic starter regarding this, someone had meantioned disfellowship papers?
why would they be sending disfellowshipment papers if i take myself out?.
in the letter, i am thinking about making the one to my friends kinda short and sweet and to the point.
They need to know the basic basics of why, I can understand.
No they don't.
I have consdiered this myself recently. Just fade. Don't give two shits about them.
BabaYaga, Welcome!
j
raised in the organization
"for those not born into the organization .
not having been born into the organization i believe.
It was an awful lot of sacrifice, (as the posters above have clearly shown), even more during adulthood. Getting married too young, staying married to someone VERY bad for me because it was the "right thing to do", etc. Couldn't hack that anymore. I Left, "knowing" something was very wrong with it all. Finally, because of the internet, I was able to see for sure. I would say it was a HUGE relief.
j