Juniper and Iamfreenow,
Welcome!
j
ok, i dont know what it is either.
but i can tell you that it exists!
i know an ms who was talking to a bro from bethel who said that there was big stuff coming and big changes.
Juniper and Iamfreenow,
Welcome!
j
on a clear and sunny day driving past the kingdom hall of jehovah's.
witnesses the past comes back to haunt me.
"keep on the watch .
Start by reading Crisis of Conscience. As almost anyone would attest to, good, honest, and objective read. If doctrinal issues are still a concern after that, then read, In Search if Christian Freedom, also by Ray Franz. That book does a pretty good explaination of where witness doctrine in fact, came from.
i am collecting guitar musicians.......their music.
i am collecting great perfomances.....rare ones of musicians that would not otherwise be together......
i wold love your input.........and would share music with those interested.
I haven't had time to read thru all 5 pages of this thread by my vote would be for Alvan Lee's Woodstock performance of Goin' Home.
j
i had a lesion removed from my right cheek, just below the eye and to the right of my nose a week ago yesterday.
doc did it in the office and indicated he did not think it was malignant - but sop requires a path test to confirm.
it was malignant i was told today.
Continue to keep us informed, Jeff. My thoughts are with you.
j
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1 cor 5:10,11 one scripture interpreted by one single man.....fred franz......a man locked up at at bethel with hardly any family has literally destroyed family relationship all over the world.
hitler or fred franz who has done more damage to humanity?
It's really unfair to compare the two. Franz is not innocent by any means, but...
He also did not START jw-ism. That was Russell, and he was a nutjob. And it was Rutherford who chose to employ people like Franz.
j
i was so inspired by the ridicolousness of thirdwitnoid in that other thread ("the gentile times reconsidered again...but this time i am using the bible"), in which he actually dared bring up the old "increase in earthquakes"-fairytale from the wt and asleep.
it really had nothing to do in that thread, which was about 607 vs 587 (oh no, not that again.... datelocationdeathsmagnitude.
jan. 23, 1556. shansi, china .
Which is worse? A plane crash that kills all 10 people on board, 100 percent? Or a plane crash that kills 999 out of 1000--less than 100 percent? The answer is obvious.
OK, so somehow population is a GOOD reason for the "increasing of lawlessness" or whatever BS that is, I always thought that we were taught, (as jws), that it was because Satan was cast down to the Earth?
hiya folks.
just joined on board and figured i'd say a quick hello to all.
i'd get into more, but i'm soooo watching this ingrid bergman marathon on right now on turner classic movies...
Welcome, Raylo!
j
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/scams/jiffylube.asp a real eye-opener.
Agreed. With, my last visit to Jiffy Lube they left the breather tube disconnected on the air intake, (why did they disconnect anyway to change oil???), and within a day my check engine light was on. No more Jiffy Lube.
j
divorce is much more common in the jehovah's witness community than they would like to admit.
probably more so than the population in general in my opinion.. if you have been divorced, do you think that the watchtower society contributed to the divorce, or caused it, or is it just possible you married some jerk or abuser and divorce would have occured no matter what religion you were, or even if you had no religion?.
possibly you got married way too young as the end was coming and there is no marriage in the resurrection if you died.
Divorce is becoming very common in the jw community. At least 6 couples in my last congregation, (including my ex-and myself), were either divorced or separated within the last 3 years.
I would certainly say that the WTS contributes to this, at least indirectly. If we consider the aspects involved, it is easy to see why. First, dating is off limits, unless marriage is being considered. So what happens, young, horny people get married too young. I don't need to tell any adult what kind of mess that can potentially make. Bad start. Then, there is all of the "Theocratic" nonsense that pressured onto the marriage. This is no way helps. Especially, if one of the marriage mates, (like my ex), has some deluded understanding of what being a truly "spritual" person is. In her case, it was all about image. Very fake, but very common in jw land. An honest person cannot put with this for long, without needing to be medicated.
Finally, when things get to the breaking point, the only "scriptual" way out is some form of adultery, (this makes absolutely NO sense). So let's see, let's have a one night stand, just so we can get out this mess! Any thinking person can see what is WRONG with this. Much better to just leave the abusive situation. I usually find most people, (at least one of the marriage mates), will leave the org. when it comes to this, simply becasue it's one of those things that makes one clearly see what is wrong with the "biblical" counsel, and the legalism of upholding it.
j
the watchtower and the deciding factors
can you recall the very first inner voices of doubt that.
you carried about the watchtower society?
I would have to say that my doubts began with their ridiculous view on having a beard.
Evergreen, I would agree that this was one of those things that I just couldn't reconcile either. I grew my goatee as soon as I left.
j