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  Has the Watchtower changed its mind or did I miss something?

  by Gill in

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  in all my years as a jw, my understanding had been of wtbts belief, was that the 144 000 were resurrected in a 'twinkling of an eye' and never actually experienced death.. did i understand wrongly or has the watchtower changed its mind......again?.

  january 1st watchtower, page 27 .

  when does the first resurrection occur?

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  done4good

  It seems that resurrected ones of the 24 elders group may be involved in communicating of divine truths today.

  This may be the most significant sentence in the article (haven't read it in its entirety yet). I don't recall seeing anything like it in print before.

  Seems to be laying the groundwork for a "flash of new light", to be exposed probably whenever the last of the 3 old-timers hanging on (Barr, Barber, Jaracz) drop off:

  I suspect the "new light" will be this: Governing body members could be members of the "great crowd" rather than "anointed". If the "faithful & discreet slave" can communicate from beyond the dead, you don't really need any living on the earth, do you?

  Intresting stuff, Sir82. I've been wondering myself what jws are thinking of the influx of younger anointed into the GB. Unfortunately, as OnTheWayOut said, nobody on the inside will notice. Especially if it's handled in the above manner.

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  "The GOD Delusion" by Richard Dawkins

  by Amnesty Vendor in

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  i just got it for reading during upcoming travels.

  any comments?

  (i'm sure that this is not the first thread on this topic)

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  Excellent read. I highly recommend it. Dawkins creates simple, yet convincing arguments. Almost good enough to sway my agnostism towards atheism.

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  anyone feeling a wee bit guilty about celebrating Thanksgiving and Xmas??

  by Star Moore in

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  i was feeling a bit guilty about celebrating as this is my 1st year out and i know the history of all the holidays and birthdays are pagan or bloody or idolatrous.. .

  but i was thinking that it's not what someone made them in the past but what they are right now.. to us, at this moment.

  am i going to sit down on thanksgiving.. and say, "i hate those indians, think i'll go kill some"..????

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  done4good

  None whatsoever! This is my first, and I am looking forward to it!

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  ..Screw It!!..

  by OUTLAW in

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  the one thing i love about my life is not doing any mantitory wbt$ bullsh*t..it`s not voluntary..none of it..just try to stop..you will be attacked on all sides..you have a gun to your head..your trying to keep your family and life together and the wbt$ will tear it apart..many are still there because of that.it`s not easy on them.....some of us say screw it!.do your worst it!..once i decieded i was out,i was out.it was done in a heart beat..everyone i knew,made my life as difficult as possible.i made a new life and they are all still stuck there.waiting for armageddon and can`t remember what they preached in years gone by..you`ve heard of alzhiemers.jehovah`s witness`s get jozhiemers.it must be contagious,they all have it.....from the time you wanted to leave,till the time you left,how long did it take you to say screw it!

  ?...outlaw

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  done4good

  Once I knew something was "wrong" I pretty much stopped attending overnight. Within about 4 months or so, it was totally over.

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  This is so huge.

  by La Capra in

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  when i was four, i believed that my life could be painfully and tortuously taken from me, in a ball of flame, crashing down from the heavens, just while i sitting down to a bowl of oatmeal in the morning.. when i was nine, i believed that my life, as i then knew it, would be drastically altered, that i would be tortured for being a jw, and after suffering for who knows how long, i would die (because i still hadn't lived up to jehovah's expectations).. when i was 13, i wanted to be a nuclear physicist-because it sounded cool, but in the meantime i believed that i would die in armageddon because i wanted to go to college, get really educated, and have a great, "worldly" life.. when i was 15, i felt guilty that i hoped armageddon would never come, because i so desperately wanted to go to college.. when i was 17, i was offered an honors early admissions in a prestigious program in a highly regarded engineering program.

  my mother flat out said, "no!".

  when i was 18, i scuttled semi-secretly to the local university, part-time, trying to hide my daily activities without actually lying to anyone.. when i was 19 i quit pretending and disassociated.

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  Congrats!
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  Would U Pray To God Under ANY Circumstances???

  by minimus in

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  even if you say you're not a believer in "god", if something bad was happening, would you ever give it a shot, and ask (jehovah) god for help??

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  No. I pretty much have learned no one is listening. Better to use my own energies to find a solution. If it was a life/death situation, my answer would still be no at this point in the juncture. I don't see that changing.

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  What can 25,000 members on this board do?

  by The wanderer in

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  ceive recognition for it?

  one thing that many of us on this board have in common is .

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  done4good

  Network/telecom engineering. Programming and DBA stuff. Good with anything technical. Have to admit though, I'm not too big on the idea of "organizing" anything. Someone would need to sell me pretty hard on that.

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  The Memorial...

  by Justice-One in

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  does anyone still go to the memorial?

  i was just thinking that although i made it quite clear to my wife that i was not going to go to anymore meetings or conventions (i made a comment about not wanting to be there when the kool-aid came out) that i caught myself thinking the other day that i might go to the memorial just to keep her happy.

  but then i thought why?

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  done4good

  It really depends. I would say if your wife already knows your true position, then don't go. It's the whole "actions speak louder" thing. She may well interpret it as you still think they have the truth, even if you say otherwise. OTOH, if you only recently stopped going to meetings, and she does not know your actual stance on the organization, it may prove to be a way of supporting the gradual fade better.

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  --- A Question for ALL Atheistic ex-Dubs----

  by gordon d in

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  which child is wiser?

  while starting a hunt for easter eggs one child runs to a big tree and finds nothing then that childs brother says, go look under that rock i promise youll find one there!

  the child throws down their basket and says, i give up!

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  done4good

  but please, don’t pull anyone else down into your hopelessness with you!

  I haven't had time to read this whole thread yet, so my apologies if this statement has been clarified, but I'M ANYTHING BUT HOPELESS!

  Jason V.
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  Letter from a dear friend and elder.

  by AK - Jeff in

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  i had sent dale a copy of my da letter, and a personal one.

  i showed only kindness, though disgust with the organizations' moral bankruptcy and doctrinal miscues.

  yet the robotic mind sees all things in a twisted light of god/organization.

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  done4good

  (((Jeff)))

  I know this hurts. I have much of the same going on right now with family/friends. But I'm with you, don't waste the stamp.

  Jason