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i have been out a long time, and i have recently noticed a lot of you making mention of smurfs.. obviously, i have missed something.
has the watchliar sociopath society "demonized" smurfs somewhere along the line.. reminds me of the old fear of paintings of clowns, with big eyes, that made the rounds back in the late 60's, early 70's.
This brings back some memories I wish to forget. I remember when I was about 10 that story was circulating about the doll running out of the KH. My sister had a Smurf record, that my mother took upon herself to burn on the stove in our kitchen! Evidently poisoning people with polyvynilchloride fumes is preferred to those little blue demons.
j
i know this has probably been discussed before, but i would like to take a poll of your thoughts as to what you personally would do, disassociate yourself or just fade over time.
i've been in the process of "fading" myself since november of last year, (last meeting in january, and never going back).
i have been considering making it official though by formal letter of da.
I would have to agree Kid put it very nicely. I know in my situation, I don't have any real drama in my life now, so it is probably wise not to risk loosing that. My family members are at least aware of my differences with the org, but are not the types to go running to the elders with what they know. I also have a good friend still in the org, (Elder, at that), who also knows how I'm thinking these days. Although I don't associate with him much anymore, we still can have a friendly conversation from time to time. Who knows, maybe he'll come to HIS senses.
j
i know this has probably been discussed before, but i would like to take a poll of your thoughts as to what you personally would do, disassociate yourself or just fade over time.
i've been in the process of "fading" myself since november of last year, (last meeting in january, and never going back).
i have been considering making it official though by formal letter of da.
Thanks Everyone!!! It seems the majority is in favor of fading, even some who have made the decision to DA. I suppose in my sitation, no immidiate family, (divorced w/no children), and a good hour away from the closest cong. I been associated with ,this makes good sense. There sure is something to say for the intellectual honesty part of it though. Better get mentally prepared for it anyway if it comes to it...
j
i know this has probably been discussed before, but i would like to take a poll of your thoughts as to what you personally would do, disassociate yourself or just fade over time.
i've been in the process of "fading" myself since november of last year, (last meeting in january, and never going back).
i have been considering making it official though by formal letter of da.
I know this has probably been discussed before, but I would like to take a poll of your thoughts as to what you personally would do, disassociate yourself or just fade over time. I've been in the process of "fading" myself since November of last year, (last meeting in January, and NEVER going back). I have been considering making it official though by formal letter of DA. I have a few JW family members, of which the only one's opinion that I would concern myself with being my sister. She knows my recent position, but perhaps just not how absolute it is. Let me know your thoughts. Thanks.
j
anyone know this poor soul?
randy
a brother who served as a curcuit and district.
FToth,
I believe most here would agree that we could not have expressed the accuracy of this situation any better than you did.
j
Congrats Lola!!! Big accomplishement. Haven't done it yet myself, but probably will shortly.
j
take the old belief-o-matic survey and post your results!.
here are my rather interesting results:.
1. unitarian universalism (100%) 2. mainline to liberal christian protestants (83%) 3. liberal quakers (82%) 4. neo-pagan (81%) 5. christian science (church of christ, scientist) (80%) 6. secular humanism (78%) 7. new age (67%) 8. baha'i faith (61%) 9. nontheist (60%) 10. church of jesus christ of latter-day saints (mormons) (57%) 11. new thought (55%) 12. hinduism (52%) 13. scientology (50%) 14. jehovah's witness (48%) 15. taoism (48%) 16. theravada buddhism (45%) 17. mainline to conservative christian/protestant (36%) 18. sikhism (32%) 19. mahayana buddhism (31%) 20. jainism (23%) 21. orthodox quaker (21%) 22. eastern orthodox (20%) 23. orthodox judaism (20%) 24. roman catholic (20%) 25. reform judaism (18%) 26. seventh day adventist (17%) 27. islam (5%)
Here's mine:
| 1. | Unitarian Universalism (100%) |
Roman Catholic (18%)
j
before i am criticized for this, please understand the difficulty of having this book in the house while still a jw.
i was hoping to find this book or portions of it online.
please pm me if you have any details.
I picked up the latest edition, (6th?) on Amazon.com a few months ago for about $10.
j
i bet most people did not.
i think nearly everyone counted time spent on breaks.
or sitting in the car for an hour and a half while the elders did a "shepherding" call.
In the beginning I was anal about reporting time accurately, (the first 10 years or so). What always bothered me was the inconsistancy with the way it was done among the witnesses. Some would count an entire 45 minute "coffee" break, and some would subtract 5 minutes for quitting 5 minutes before noon. It just seemed equally stupid that someone could stop at a gas station on the way into the meeting for field service, drop off a tract to the attendant, and start his/her time a good 45 mins to an hour before anyone else got to the territory.
Also, as far as it concernes pioneers, they are indeed allowed to count time for things that the ordinary publisher cannot count. For example, any work that a publisher performs on the Regional Building Commitee, can only report those hours as "additional activity" on thier field service slip, not field service. A pioneer, can count this work as field service. I was actually quite involved in that work in the 90's and it was this double standard that made me finally say F*CK IT, and just put whatever hours were neccesary to keep the BoE happy.
One final note, I totally agree with the people that said people who take things seriously have the hardest fall when they leave the org.
j
weekly meetings .
book study: 1 hour .
meetings for field service: 15 minutes (13 hours per year) .
SirNose,
Interesting you mention pyramid schemes...I remember when I first came across some Amway folks and thought to myself just how wacko they were...It's amazing what I couldn't see about the WTS the time... (I was a witness then).
j
