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  Do you truly WANT the Watchtower to collapse? If so why?

  by nicolaou in

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  there are the abuses of course, the diabloical 'two witness' rule applied to allegations of molestation, the reckless 'blood ban' in all it's tortuous complexities (which by watchtowers own admission has resulted in many fatalaties) and the cruel punishment of shunning which has caused so much suffering and pain to many of us here.. is it for these reasons that you want to see the watchtower fall or is it simply that you want to see them humiliated and broken for what they've done to you?

  most of us aren't bitter or selfish enough to want personal revenge against the watchtower but i'd be lying if i said i didn't sometimes think like that.. the reason for my original question is that i sometimes feel a bit hypocritical.

  i try to accord respect to jw's and individuals of all faiths, (yes, even when i go off on one of my atheistic diatriabes) but whereas i allow myself to be hostile to the watchtower i shrink from being so forthright against other 'christian' faiths whose corrosive nature may not be so easily apparent but is there nonetheless.. i guess my question is; why do we want the watchtower to fall but do not wish all religion to fall?.

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  While all religion can potentially exert problems on the world, the WT, (by it's own brand of extremeism), already does. I don't consider it anything personal, but the world would be a better place without any fundamentalist religions, WT included. Furthermore, despite my atheistic stance, I strongly believe that people's beliefs are personal and that a person needs to learn to think critically first, before they can let go of religion. There is no amount of reasoning that will work otherwise.

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  What Difference Is There Between Your Life As A Witness----And Now??

  by minimus in

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  are things sooooo different now??

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  done4good

  Welcome Ex Jo-Ho !;

  No more guilt over stupid things. Free time on weekends, and evenings. Confidence. Self-honesty. Better decision making. More fun. Able to pursue intrests without guilt, and have time for them. MUCH less judgemental of others. Don't get angry nearly as often. Don't blame/praise mythological forces for everything that happens in life. HAPPIER!

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  Silencing former Jehovah's Witnesses

  by The wanderer in

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  being shutdown by the watchtower bible and tract.

  society.

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  done4good

  All it takes these days is some circumstance to get someone "away" from the org for a while. They will look into the internet soon enough.

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  Anyone ever watch David Blaine?

  by AK - Jeff in

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  the magician?

  he is unbelievable - i don't see how it can be smoke and mirrors out on the street.

  some of it seems impossible unless it is staged.

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  Probably the most brailliant "smoke and mirrors" guy ever. I actually knew him growing up since the 3rd grade, (real name is David Bukalow), He was always into that kind of stuff, so I seriously doubt anything paranormal is really going on. But an f'%^n genius, yes.

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  Chemical weapons being used ... how about it America?

  by Simon in

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  of course, as it's the murdering, war-crime-committing, un-mandate-ignoring, nuclear-non-proliferation-flouting israeli friends of america, they probably won't see it as an issue at all.. funny that ... they were dead keen on going to war over just the hint of this very thing but probably won't even condemn it.. it's about time that sanctions were imposed on israel.

  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6075408.stm.

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  I truly believe it has to be their religious cult mindset imprinted on them from birth. Now if we can just find a way to change that.....

  Agreed wholeheartedly. Richard Dawkins put this very well in latest book The God Delusion, that is, (I'm paraphrasing here), that even non-extreme religions leave the "door open" for religious extremeism. When one puts faith in something that cannot be proven, no matter how benign it may appear, he or she is always under the potential risk to believe something so strongly that they can rationalize any type of behavior if they feel it supports their religious beliefs, (this should not be unfamiliar territory to us as ex-jws), I'm beginning to believe much more clearly now that "religious extremeism" is not the problem here at all, but religion is the problem period. Ironically, the only solution to this problem is religious tolerance, go figure...

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  Holiday Viewpoints and Former Jehovah's Witnesses

  by The wanderer in

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  of pagan origin.

  whether it was halloween, christmas, easter.

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  I don't let them bother me anymore. True, many holidays have origins other than their supposed "Christian" application, but even Judaism and Christianity have origins in polytheistic religion. Bottom line: holidays just don't matter. Celebrate them if you want, don't celebrate them if you don't want to. Just don't not celebrate them strictly for their "pagan" origin, because almost anything has similar origins when looked at closely enough.

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  What's Your FAVORITE Type of Music???

  by minimus in

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  i love r&b, soul, disco, and some classic rock.

  one of my favorire songs is by al green, "let's stay together"......what do you like??

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  Classic rock, especially progressive stuff like early Genesis, late '70s early '80s new wave, early-mid '90s grunge/alternative stuff, and a few "current" artists here and there.

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  Did you get the new tract?

  by kid-A in

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  just wanted to run an informal poll to see how "effective" or hopelessly "ineffective" the borg tract assimilation drive has been.. i for one, have not received the tract, and i live in densely populated development.

  did anybody get it left in their doors/mailboxes?.

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  done4good

  No tract here. Actually, I never see witnesses here out at all, and I live in a suburb of Philly. Does anyone even go out in FS anymore?

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  The Two Faces of a JW

  by Nosferatu in

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  it always amazed me how jws can have almost two different personalities.

  it's not quite like having a double life, but it's the hypocricy of jws themselves.. i remember going to those meetings and seeing everyone with their plastic smiles, as if they were the greatest people in the world.

  but you lift the curtain of their home lives, and their true personalities come out.. my mother was an entirely different person at the meetings.

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  done4good

  Too many scenarios to list....

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  Radical Islam finds US 'sterile ground'

  by daystar in

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  "people come to this country and they like it.

  they don't view it as the belly of the beast.

  with very few exceptions, you don't see the bitter enclaves that you have in europe.".

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  done4good

  For the most part, a very encouraging article.

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