Posts by done4good

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..Screw It!!..

by OUTLAW in

the one thing i love about my life is not doing any mantitory wbt$ bullsh*t..it`s not voluntary..none of it..just try to stop..you will be attacked on all sides..you have a gun to your head..your trying to keep your family and life together and the wbt$ will tear it apart..many are still there because of that.it`s not easy on them.....some of us say screw it!.do your worst it!..once i decieded i was out,i was out.it was done in a heart beat..everyone i knew,made my life as difficult as possible.i made a new life and they are all still stuck there.waiting for armageddon and can`t remember what they preached in years gone by..you`ve heard of alzhiemers.jehovah`s witness`s get jozhiemers.it must be contagious,they all have it.....from the time you wanted to leave,till the time you left,how long did it take you to say screw it!

?...outlaw

done4good

Once I knew something was "wrong" I pretty much stopped attending overnight. Within about 4 months or so, it was totally over.

j

44

This is so huge.

by La Capra in

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friends

when i was four, i believed that my life could be painfully and tortuously taken from me, in a ball of flame, crashing down from the heavens, just while i sitting down to a bowl of oatmeal in the morning.. when i was nine, i believed that my life, as i then knew it, would be drastically altered, that i would be tortured for being a jw, and after suffering for who knows how long, i would die (because i still hadn't lived up to jehovah's expectations).. when i was 13, i wanted to be a nuclear physicist-because it sounded cool, but in the meantime i believed that i would die in armageddon because i wanted to go to college, get really educated, and have a great, "worldly" life.. when i was 15, i felt guilty that i hoped armageddon would never come, because i so desperately wanted to go to college.. when i was 17, i was offered an honors early admissions in a prestigious program in a highly regarded engineering program.

my mother flat out said, "no!".

when i was 18, i scuttled semi-secretly to the local university, part-time, trying to hide my daily activities without actually lying to anyone.. when i was 19 i quit pretending and disassociated.

done4good

Congrats!

42

Would U Pray To God Under ANY Circumstances???

by minimus in

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even if you say you're not a believer in "god", if something bad was happening, would you ever give it a shot, and ask (jehovah) god for help??

?

done4good

No. I pretty much have learned no one is listening. Better to use my own energies to find a solution. If it was a life/death situation, my answer would still be no at this point in the juncture. I don't see that changing.

j

30

What can 25,000 members on this board do?

by The wanderer in

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what can 25,000 members on this board do?have you ever wanted to do something really great and re-.

ceive recognition for it?

one thing that many of us on this board have in common is .

done4good

Network/telecom engineering. Programming and DBA stuff. Good with anything technical. Have to admit though, I'm not too big on the idea of "organizing" anything. Someone would need to sell me pretty hard on that.

j

19

The Memorial...

by Justice-One in

does anyone still go to the memorial?

i was just thinking that although i made it quite clear to my wife that i was not going to go to anymore meetings or conventions (i made a comment about not wanting to be there when the kool-aid came out) that i caught myself thinking the other day that i might go to the memorial just to keep her happy.

but then i thought why?

done4good

It really depends. I would say if your wife already knows your true position, then don't go. It's the whole "actions speak louder" thing. She may well interpret it as you still think they have the truth, even if you say otherwise. OTOH, if you only recently stopped going to meetings, and she does not know your actual stance on the organization, it may prove to be a way of supporting the gradual fade better.

j

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--- A Question for ALL Atheistic ex-Dubs----

by gordon d in

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which child is wiser?

while starting a hunt for easter eggs one child runs to a big tree and finds nothing then that childs brother says, go look under that rock i promise youll find one there!

the child throws down their basket and says, i give up!

done4good

but please, don’t pull anyone else down into your hopelessness with you!

I haven't had time to read this whole thread yet, so my apologies if this statement has been clarified, but I'M ANYTHING BUT HOPELESS!

Jason V.

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Letter from a dear friend and elder.

by AK - Jeff in

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i had sent dale a copy of my da letter, and a personal one.

i showed only kindness, though disgust with the organizations' moral bankruptcy and doctrinal miscues.

yet the robotic mind sees all things in a twisted light of god/organization.

done4good

(((Jeff)))

I know this hurts. I have much of the same going on right now with family/friends. But I'm with you, don't waste the stamp.

Jason

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What do you think about gays and abortion now.......................?????

by vitty in

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when you saw the wt for what it was and realized it was not the truth, how did that affect your thoughts on subjects like homosexuality or abortion for example.. did you start to think differently suddenly or did it take a long time ?.................or maybe you havent changed your minds on what the wt condemns.. i was quite shocked at how i accepted my teenage son was sexually active and i talked to him about condoms and this being an important thing in his and gfs life and where they sure they were ready.

i didnt tell him not to do it !.

actually i think i always had my thoughts on different subjects that werent in line with the org, i just pushed what i really thought to the back of my mind.. there are many different subjects name one that you relate to.. .

done4good

While, I would not condone an abortion, (say, in the case of my girlfriend), I do believe it is a personal choice. I have no issue with gays whatsoever. My future sister in law is gay, and a wonderful person.

j

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Why Jehovah's Witness do not want to see the flaws within the religion

by The wanderer in

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why jehovah's witness do not want to see the flaws within the religion a friend's thread inspired this topic of discussion because it was about.

a week or two weeks ago that this conversation came up during a re-.

cent telephone call.. the jehovah's witnesses perspective on the matter on a number of occasions, i recall getting into arguments with my.

done4good

How can you reason or show a Jehovah's Witness
that there religion is wrong without it becoming
an emotional contest?
How did you separate your emotions from your
intellect to arrive at your present conclusions
regarding the organization?

I'll answer these in reverse order. I was only able to make a successful "separation" of intellect and emotion concerning the organization only after enough tough lessons in life taught me that what I was being taught just didn't seem "right". Not that I didn't have doubts about many things long before that, as I assuradly did, it's was a matter of coming to a point in life where I just began to "know" WITHOUT even realizing it. At that point of really "knowing" something was wrong, only then could I begin to look objectively at the facts.

So to answer the first question, reasoning with a true believing jw is ALMOST impossible, unless they themselves have already come to certain conclusions within. I pick and choose carefully those jws that I intend to present any conclusions to. IF they appear "ready", due to marital failure, disfellowshipped loved one, etc, then it is quite easy to present facts, without fear of being shut out.

j

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Please Send Any Positive Thoughts My Way on Wednesday!

by XJW4EVR in

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i will be interviewing for a position at the university of southern california.

the pay is not going to be that good to begin with, but i have mitigating factors, my son who is a junior this year, can get in and i won't have to pay a dime towards his tuition.

his dream is to go to usc and to play for the usc marching band.

done4good

Here come the thoughts...., (hey it's dinner time and I'm getting hungry).

j