man, this is going to suck.
i really don't see why a company of less than 50 employees needs a big fvvving system to handle the way everything flows.
i could fix it all by eliminating one employee who buggers everything up within the company.. i know the wts uses an erp system, but they have more than 20 people working for them.. what are your experiences with erp?.
What you'll find is that it is almost impossible to get a company of such small size to actually "work" with the system. Everyone will complain how the system dosen't work the way the flow of business does and eventually will abandon the system. I experienced this in both small and mid-sized companies with both ERP and CRM type systems. ERP systems really only begin to prove to be efficient in larger/more complex organizations.
j
as ex-mormon, my exposure to a different version of the first vision story which was quite different from the offical first vision was my beginning way out of mormonism.
what about you ex-jw's?
what, in terms of wt doctrine, made you realize that the wt is a fraud?.
For many years there were things that I questioned or flatly disagreed with. However, I tolerated them, as many here have probably had a similar experience with. I stopped attending after I began to sense that poor personal decision making was largely a result of WTS indoctrination. At that time, there was no "doctrine" per se, that I had any issue with, other than the inconsistencies I had always had some concerns about. A funny thing happed though. I began to notice just how much more clearly I was able to think, as well as how much life improved without the organization's influence in my life.
At that point I needed to know. Because, really, at that time I still considered the jws the "truth". I was ready at that time to take an objective look into the organization that for almost 20 years I dedicated myself to. I read Crisis of Conscience, and I sensed the honesty and humilty of the author Ray Franz. I was able to communicate with him via email, and that further legitimized my opinon of him. The 607 issue, as well as the Mexico/Malawi debacle were perhaps, the two most convincing doctrinal/politcal issues that did me in as far as the WTS was concerned. No looking back since.
j
were you "fortunate" enough to be part of the "in crowd" or were you a spectator??
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Funny, my "worldly" friends now could care less about such things and yet all the while I was "in" I thought just the opposite. it's amazing what you see once the blinders come off.
How true that statement is!
j
were you "fortunate" enough to be part of the "in crowd" or were you a spectator??
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Nope. Not in any cong I attended. Very thankful for that now.
j
in all my years as a jw, my understanding had been of wtbts belief, was that the 144 000 were resurrected in a 'twinkling of an eye' and never actually experienced death.. did i understand wrongly or has the watchtower changed its mind......again?.
january 1st watchtower, page 27 .
when does the first resurrection occur?
It seems that resurrected ones of the 24 elders group may be involved in communicating of divine truths today.This may be the most significant sentence in the article (haven't read it in its entirety yet). I don't recall seeing anything like it in print before.
Seems to be laying the groundwork for a "flash of new light", to be exposed probably whenever the last of the 3 old-timers hanging on (Barr, Barber, Jaracz) drop off:
I suspect the "new light" will be this: Governing body members could be members of the "great crowd" rather than "anointed". If the "faithful & discreet slave" can communicate from beyond the dead, you don't really need any living on the earth, do you?
Intresting stuff, Sir82. I've been wondering myself what jws are thinking of the influx of younger anointed into the GB. Unfortunately, as OnTheWayOut said, nobody on the inside will notice. Especially if it's handled in the above manner.
j
i just got it for reading during upcoming travels.
any comments?
(i'm sure that this is not the first thread on this topic)
Excellent read. I highly recommend it. Dawkins creates simple, yet convincing arguments. Almost good enough to sway my agnostism towards atheism.
j
i was feeling a bit guilty about celebrating as this is my 1st year out and i know the history of all the holidays and birthdays are pagan or bloody or idolatrous.. .
but i was thinking that it's not what someone made them in the past but what they are right now.. to us, at this moment.
am i going to sit down on thanksgiving.. and say, "i hate those indians, think i'll go kill some"..????
None whatsoever! This is my first, and I am looking forward to it!
j
the one thing i love about my life is not doing any mantitory wbt$ bullsh*t..it`s not voluntary..none of it..just try to stop..you will be attacked on all sides..you have a gun to your head..your trying to keep your family and life together and the wbt$ will tear it apart..many are still there because of that.it`s not easy on them.....some of us say screw it!.do your worst it!..once i decieded i was out,i was out.it was done in a heart beat..everyone i knew,made my life as difficult as possible.i made a new life and they are all still stuck there.waiting for armageddon and can`t remember what they preached in years gone by..you`ve heard of alzhiemers.jehovah`s witness`s get jozhiemers.it must be contagious,they all have it.....from the time you wanted to leave,till the time you left,how long did it take you to say screw it!
?...outlaw
Once I knew something was "wrong" I pretty much stopped attending overnight. Within about 4 months or so, it was totally over.
j
when i was four, i believed that my life could be painfully and tortuously taken from me, in a ball of flame, crashing down from the heavens, just while i sitting down to a bowl of oatmeal in the morning.. when i was nine, i believed that my life, as i then knew it, would be drastically altered, that i would be tortured for being a jw, and after suffering for who knows how long, i would die (because i still hadn't lived up to jehovah's expectations).. when i was 13, i wanted to be a nuclear physicist-because it sounded cool, but in the meantime i believed that i would die in armageddon because i wanted to go to college, get really educated, and have a great, "worldly" life.. when i was 15, i felt guilty that i hoped armageddon would never come, because i so desperately wanted to go to college.. when i was 17, i was offered an honors early admissions in a prestigious program in a highly regarded engineering program.
my mother flat out said, "no!".
when i was 18, i scuttled semi-secretly to the local university, part-time, trying to hide my daily activities without actually lying to anyone.. when i was 19 i quit pretending and disassociated.
Congrats!
even if you say you're not a believer in "god", if something bad was happening, would you ever give it a shot, and ask (jehovah) god for help??
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No. I pretty much have learned no one is listening. Better to use my own energies to find a solution. If it was a life/death situation, my answer would still be no at this point in the juncture. I don't see that changing.
j
