Posts by Dino

Hello OHD!!
After Christmas I am going to do what I can to verify the JW association with the Interfaith Center of New York.
After speaking with the vice-president of the center, Steven Friedlander, I am very confident that the JW's being listed was not a directory thing. You can find plenty of JW listings in New York church directories and it is no cause for alarm.

However in this case it appears that reciprocity is involved and is a cause for alarm. But I want to get complete confirmation if possible. Extreme caution has to be exercised or the interfaith center will get spooked.

One such experience I had in this area was in trying to ferret out the participants of the "Millennium World Peace Summit of Religious and Spiritual Leaders" held at the UN in late August 2000. Over 1000 religious leaders were represented. I cannot help but feel that our friends in Brooklyn had representation there, because of their UN/DPI association. However, there is no list of participants published. They very nice lady at the summit office told me that it could not be released for security reasons. Whatever.

I also have a strong sense that time is quickly running out to do this research. The interfaith links may well disappear at the end of this year due to their disassociation from the UN/DPI.

(((((((HAWK))))))) Are you out there? I hope you are having a good holiday. You deserve it man! I am going to try to contact you.

Dino

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you know you're from Arkansas if...

by teejay in

1. you measure distance in minutes.. 2. you've ever had to switch from "heat" to "a/c" in the same day.. 3. stores don't have bags; they have sacks.. 4. stores don't have shopping carts; they have buggies.. 5. you see a car running in the parking lot at the store with no one in it, no matter what time of the year.. 6. you use "fix" as a verb.

example: i am fixing to go to the store.. 7. all the festivals across the state are named after a fruit, vegetable, grain, or animal.. 8. you install security lights on your house and garage and leave both unlocked.. 9. you carry jumper cables in your car ... for your own car.. 10. you know what "cow tipping" and "snipe hunting" is.. 11. you only own four spices: salt, pepper, ketchup,and tabasco.. 12. you think everyone from a bigger city has an accent.. 13. you think sexy lingerie is a tee shirt and boxer shorts.. 14. the local papers covers national and international news on one page but requires 6 pages for sports.. 15. you think that the first day of deer season is a national holiday.. 16. you know which leaves make good toilet paper.. 17. you find 90 degrees f "a little warm.".

18. you know all four seasons: almost summer, summer, still summer, and christmas.. 19. you know whether another arkansan is from southern, middle, or northern arkansas as soon as they open their mouth.. 20. there is a dairy queen in every town with a population of 1000 or more.. 21. going to wal-mart is a favorite past-time known as "goin wal-martin" or off to "wally world.".

Dino

Oh yeah, tyydyy.

Now you're talkin'.

Dino

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The UN Affiliation: Likely Denouement?

by JosephAlward in

ive found the un affiliation threads very interesting, but ive also expressed the view that this issue will have virtually no effect on jw membership.

i have at least two reasons for believing this.. first, after reading w. j. schnells 1957 book, thirty years a watchtower slave, in which the author describes how the watchtower used negative publicity to increase membership, im now of the opinion that continued commentary on this matter may only serve to foster an even greater conviction on the part of rank and file jws that they are being persecuted, and they will increase their efforts to recruit members; this will offset what i think will be a miniscule number of defections by those who will feel betrayed because of the un affiliation.

the reason why i think there will be few defections is described below.. second, i believe that the watchtower can easily defend itself.

Dino

What!

We cant let this slip off the first page.

BTTTTTT.

Dino

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you know you're from Arkansas if...

by teejay in

1. you measure distance in minutes.. 2. you've ever had to switch from "heat" to "a/c" in the same day.. 3. stores don't have bags; they have sacks.. 4. stores don't have shopping carts; they have buggies.. 5. you see a car running in the parking lot at the store with no one in it, no matter what time of the year.. 6. you use "fix" as a verb.

example: i am fixing to go to the store.. 7. all the festivals across the state are named after a fruit, vegetable, grain, or animal.. 8. you install security lights on your house and garage and leave both unlocked.. 9. you carry jumper cables in your car ... for your own car.. 10. you know what "cow tipping" and "snipe hunting" is.. 11. you only own four spices: salt, pepper, ketchup,and tabasco.. 12. you think everyone from a bigger city has an accent.. 13. you think sexy lingerie is a tee shirt and boxer shorts.. 14. the local papers covers national and international news on one page but requires 6 pages for sports.. 15. you think that the first day of deer season is a national holiday.. 16. you know which leaves make good toilet paper.. 17. you find 90 degrees f "a little warm.".

18. you know all four seasons: almost summer, summer, still summer, and christmas.. 19. you know whether another arkansan is from southern, middle, or northern arkansas as soon as they open their mouth.. 20. there is a dairy queen in every town with a population of 1000 or more.. 21. going to wal-mart is a favorite past-time known as "goin wal-martin" or off to "wally world.".

Dino

WooooooPigSoooooieee
WooooooPigSoooooieee
WooooooPigSoooooieee....Razorbacks!!

Go...Hogs...Go!!

Do you remember the 1969 UA-UT heartbreaker?

I still love 'em.

Dino

PS You know the person from Arkansas is the one with the toothpick in his/her mouth in the wedding photos.

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Gentile Times

by Masterji in

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here is a question from readers.. this was in the days when they were truly from the public.. in establishing the length of the seven times of the gentiles, a time or year of 360 days is used, to give 2,520 days, which become 2,520 years when ezekiel 4:6 is applied.

yet when we figure from 607 b.c.

down to a.d. 1914, the 2,520 years are solar years of 365 1/4 days each, and not lunar years of 360 days each.

Dino

Welcome to the board Masterji.

I cant add much to the fine comments made, especially by AlanF and Islandwoman.

I just wanted to underline a point made by Alan. I too really began to take note of the incongruousness of the WT's view of Matthew 24 around 1993.

Something else that intrigued me is that even though Benjamin Wilson's Emphatic Diaglott was published before the enlarged understanding of koine greek, he was aware of the nuances of the word parousia. In 1 Corinthians 15:23 note how Wilson renders parousia:

"But each one in his own rank; Christ a firstfruit; afterwards, those who are Christ's at his APPEARING." (caps Benjamin Wilson's)

The NWT dogmatically renders parousia, you guessed it, presence.
This of course, to shore up their creaky 1914 invisible presence doctrine.

Excellent thread and again, welcome.

Dino

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Greed Blinds JW Elder To Planned Suicide

by MadApostate in

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investigation continues into deaths of man, woman found in waco motel.

by paul monies .

tribune-herald staff writer.

Dino

Hello Paul.

I wonder if I know you.

I spent many an hour at the Denton assembly hall.

I didnt put the connection together with George Norris, (I dont know many from the Waco area). Didnt George work with the electricians?

Anyway, good to meet you.

Dino

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WTS Document found in UN Collection - MAJOR

by hawkaw in

i have received a package from the united nations high commissioner for human rights.

you may recall that dino found out that the uns high commissioners office in geneva, switzerland has in its collection the november 22, 1998 awake!

magazine article titled a long job finished (pages 3 and 4) and a second article titled the universal declaration of human rights (page 5).

Dino

Greetings Mac!

Good to see you back!

Believe me, you have been missed.

Dino