Here is a little more info...notice my beginning post was about a locked trunk. An officer needs a warrant to look into locked containers whose contents the driver does not have access to without key or combination. Now here is the interesting part...an officer does not need your permission to search your "immediate grabable area." This could pretty much mean the inside of your car, or your living room IF you let the officer into your home. But this does not include locked containers. This is the reason many people carry a locked Pelican case in their cars. They need a warrant to look inside it.
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Would you submit to a "voluntary" search?...
by Justice-One inexample....a cop pulls you over for a broken taillight or some other very minor infraction.
he says he is just going to give you a warning, then says something like...."hey, you don't have any rockets or explosives in your trunk do you?
" you of course say no, then he says "mind if i look?
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Would you submit to a "voluntary" search?...
by Justice-One inexample....a cop pulls you over for a broken taillight or some other very minor infraction.
he says he is just going to give you a warning, then says something like...."hey, you don't have any rockets or explosives in your trunk do you?
" you of course say no, then he says "mind if i look?
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Justice-One
Most car stops are due to knowledge about the drivers life style and associates and previous arrests.
None of which mean squat unless their is a current warrant.
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Would you submit to a "voluntary" search?...
by Justice-One inexample....a cop pulls you over for a broken taillight or some other very minor infraction.
he says he is just going to give you a warning, then says something like...."hey, you don't have any rockets or explosives in your trunk do you?
" you of course say no, then he says "mind if i look?
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Justice-One
During my time as a sheriffs deputy, I always had a legit reason for asking about a search and it wasn't for the trunk only.
Legit in whos mind? Like I said, put your wants in one hand and crap in the other.
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Would you submit to a "voluntary" search?...
by Justice-One inexample....a cop pulls you over for a broken taillight or some other very minor infraction.
he says he is just going to give you a warning, then says something like...."hey, you don't have any rockets or explosives in your trunk do you?
" you of course say no, then he says "mind if i look?
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Are you a guilty until proven innocent type?
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Would you submit to a "voluntary" search?...
by Justice-One inexample....a cop pulls you over for a broken taillight or some other very minor infraction.
he says he is just going to give you a warning, then says something like...."hey, you don't have any rockets or explosives in your trunk do you?
" you of course say no, then he says "mind if i look?
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Justice-One
BTW, having nothing to hide has nothing to do with this. I wonder how the cop would feel and what he would say, that since HE probably has nothing to hide, if you can come over to his house and "just take a look around." In this country you are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. It should be assumed until proven otherwise, that all you have in your trunk (or whatever) is legal lawful property.
Cops seem to have a lot of "wants" these days. My Dad used to say put your wants in one hand, and crap in the other...and see which one fills up first.
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Would you submit to a "voluntary" search?...
by Justice-One inexample....a cop pulls you over for a broken taillight or some other very minor infraction.
he says he is just going to give you a warning, then says something like...."hey, you don't have any rockets or explosives in your trunk do you?
" you of course say no, then he says "mind if i look?
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Justice-One
I have nothing to hide, so wouldn't object to any kind of a search. My trunk has a bottle of Febreeze in it, and a quilt. What can they do with that?
If you bought the car new, you might be ok. However, it is NEVER a good idea to give away rights.
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Would you submit to a "voluntary" search?...
by Justice-One inexample....a cop pulls you over for a broken taillight or some other very minor infraction.
he says he is just going to give you a warning, then says something like...."hey, you don't have any rockets or explosives in your trunk do you?
" you of course say no, then he says "mind if i look?
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Justice-One
What would you say to .... "You know I can get a warrant really easy. It will go easier on you if you just let me take look."
Or... "Just what DO you have in the trunk? Do you have something to hide?"
As for me, to number one...."Go ahead and get the warrant, under advice of counsel....."
And the latter... "I only have lawful private property."
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Would you submit to a "voluntary" search?...
by Justice-One inexample....a cop pulls you over for a broken taillight or some other very minor infraction.
he says he is just going to give you a warning, then says something like...."hey, you don't have any rockets or explosives in your trunk do you?
" you of course say no, then he says "mind if i look?
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Justice-One
Example....A cop pulls you over for a broken taillight or some other very minor infraction. He says he is just going to give you a warning, then says something like...."Hey, you don't have any rockets or explosives in your trunk do you?" You of course say no, then he says "mind if I look?" If you say "yes" like so many would, you have just given up some very serious rights. I actually saw this little trick used on my young nephew. Later I explained to him how he had just given the police permission to search his car without having probable cause. He did not think this was a big deal. I do. What if he had something that he did not know was illegal? What if the cop found a "roach" that the cars previous owner had left behind? He would now be screwed. He would have no hope of having the search thrown out because "probable cause" had not been met....he GAVE them permission, and GAVE away his rights.
Personally I long ago memorized the following phrase...."Officer under the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to submit to voluntary search of my person or vehicle." Then of course ask if you are free to go.
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My old KH had a personal visit from me today!
by moshe ini was on business in the area of my old congregation ( i live out of state)- the one i first got baptized in back in 1973. they were just getting started on their discussion before service- it was 9:03 am and i just impulsively turned into the parking lot and decided to pay them a surprise visit.
i just walked into the kh and looked at them for 30 seconds.
i didn't recognize anyone and finally they asked me what i wanted.
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You have b*lls of steel! (I mean that in a good way ). I could never do that. You never know -- maybe some had doubts and you just made the seed grow.
Check out the persons avatar that posted the above....I bet they all looked like that when you were done with them!
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yet another email...
by puck injust got this one from my mom.... .
making the devil happy.
devil's beatitudes (happinesses).
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Justice-One
five hours a week with their fellow Christians
Hmmmm....Meeting time only, time to get ready and drive to and from the Hall, meeting preps, field service, personal study.....try closer to fifteen a week.