Ok, I'm very proud to be the first one to post a link to the new SL website :)
izobcenec
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NEW Silentlambs website
by izobcenec in.
ok, i'm very proud to be the first one to post a link to the new sl website :)
http://66.96.211.34/~silent/
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Are COJ and Jim Penton real?
by izobcenec ini have been thinking...how do we know, that recent posts by coj and jim penton are real.... i mean, anyone could post under their names...and why would they post now and here?.
could it be, that someone is just trying to destroy sl movement?
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izobcenec
larc: thank you for that kind remark...if we inform George Bush about the situation, he will
probably post too, right?
If they post on private forums, why do they bother, they are superior and they shouldnt really
care about us, regular and average people...Edited by - izobcenec on 29 October 2002 22:18:45
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Are COJ and Jim Penton real?
by izobcenec ini have been thinking...how do we know, that recent posts by coj and jim penton are real.... i mean, anyone could post under their names...and why would they post now and here?.
could it be, that someone is just trying to destroy sl movement?
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izobcenec
to larc:
get a grip with that discriminational shit...and its an OPEN FORUM...why should
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Are COJ and Jim Penton real?
by izobcenec ini have been thinking...how do we know, that recent posts by coj and jim penton are real.... i mean, anyone could post under their names...and why would they post now and here?.
could it be, that someone is just trying to destroy sl movement?
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izobcenec
I agree that both posts look genuine...It just suprises me, that they
BOTH decided to post on this forum at almost the same time...they
havent posted before or on other forums i guess...
And to those, who are upset...its just a honest question...this is not a
simulation of some intellectual superiors...wtf is that anyway, sounds
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Are COJ and Jim Penton real?
by izobcenec ini have been thinking...how do we know, that recent posts by coj and jim penton are real.... i mean, anyone could post under their names...and why would they post now and here?.
could it be, that someone is just trying to destroy sl movement?
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izobcenec
I have been thinking...how do we know, that recent posts by COJ and Jim Penton are real...
I mean, anyone could post under their names...And why would they post NOW and HERE?
Could it be, that someone is just trying to destroy SL movement? -
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Does Our Arguing Scare People Off???
by minimus inwith so much going on over here, do you think that newbies, lurkers, or potenial apostates could or do get scared off from this place?
if someone is on the fence and they want to explore the internet and are warned that all you'll see are disgruntled apostates, could these forums make them think the "faithful and discreet slave" is actually right?
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izobcenec
At least we have the freedom of speech...I dont really care what the GB say
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Bill Bowen's Comments on Ray Franz
by silentlambs ini wish them peace.
at the end of the conversation i did not feel we were in agreement.
for similar reasons i believe ray has not supported the issue of child abuse being a problem in the organization to media and by personal comments to persons who ask him privately about this.
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izobcenec
oh come on IW...the new SL website is being planned for at least few months now...it
is vital for such a site to have a forum and chatroom...bill is supporting abuse victims,
why would he post on ex-witness forum? Those who wish to be informed can subscribe
to his mailing list and will be informed about everything...bill is not escaping from anything,
he has full freedom to say what he wishes as has mr. franz...but it is a problem, when
this issues become so emotional and people start to say "I'm with bill, or I'm with ray
on this" I mean, Is it possible, that two different views can co-exist and we all can live
happily? can ray prove that he didn't know anything WITH DOCUMENTS? can bill prove,
that ray knew something WITH DOCUMENTS? I don't think so...this board has 7,221 users, that is 7,221 opinions...so there you have it... -
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Bill Bowen's Comments on Ray Franz
by silentlambs ini wish them peace.
at the end of the conversation i did not feel we were in agreement.
for similar reasons i believe ray has not supported the issue of child abuse being a problem in the organization to media and by personal comments to persons who ask him privately about this.
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izobcenec
strong post bill!
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XJW web sites
by ballistic inif you had unlimited skills, time and web space and cost was no object, what kind of xjw web site would you build and why?
do you think there is a need for more types of site?
i ask this as part of my market research for building a site.
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izobcenec
We recently put up this xjw page: http://www.jehovahsxwitnesses.tk/
Now there are hundreds of xjw websites on the net and lot of quality articles & material...but its
hard to find a site that has it all...the closest is probably wt observer...so idea of our website
was..."the best of xjw" or all the best links to xjw material, few eye-opening articles, inviting
and clear design and regular updating of the page & news
what more can be done? surely, the interactive webpages have future...with all that flash
possibilities...also, when creating xjw page, one should always put something unique on it...
something, that has not been published anywhere else
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Articles in Slovenian magazine MLADINA
by izobcenec inhere are two translated articles from mladina magazine:.
awake!.
excommunicated members are criticising their former organisation.
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Here are two translated articles from MLADINA magazine:
Awake!
Excommunicated members are criticising their former organisation.
Recently there was Jehovahs Witnesses assembly in Tivoli Hall, Slovenia. The ceremonial topic of the meeting was the apocalypse which is already knocking at our doors. Brother Leon Miklavcic explained to all the present audience the plan about the annihilation or transformation into non-existence of five billion individuals who do not follow the right rules and do not believe in the right god.
Some similar convincing effort can be found in their publication Awake! which some indefatigable activists delivered to passers-by.
The previous issue wrote about the world peace, Gods violent instructions and eternal punishment. The latest edition is almost entirely dedicated to the police, without it our world could be governed by anarchy.
Although the state internal organs are still needed they will not be necessary in the future anymore. Jehovah will establish a heavenly kingdom where the police should not be needed and we shall all be sitting everyone under our own vine and under our own fig-tree and we shall not be scared by anyone. There will be no pornography which is one of the main topics of this fanzine.
Pornography and even a thought about fornication are in the opinion of Jehovahs Witnesses directly linked to rape and violence. In the course of time pornography users force their partners to practise unusual sexual activities which may put them away from God.
Pornography is improper, because it exhibits publicly the most intimate personal activities. It is disgusting because it humiliates man and makes him behave as an animal. It is unloving since it does not stimulate tenderness or respect. It stimulates but egoistic lust...Anything offered by pornography is harmful. This is not quite compatible with the scripture. Besides some detail instructions for sexual relations can be found right in the Bible: May your fountain be blessed, and may you rejoice in the wife of your youth. A loving doe, a graceful deer- may her breasts satisfy you always, may you ever be captivated by her love. (Proverbs 5:18,19)The former members do not agree with the teachings of the organisation. They designed their own website where they call public attention to the inadmissible policy of the leadership. They came to the assemby of their former brothers and sisters and stack flyers about their hiding information and mind control. Nevertheless they were not able not carry out the action up to the end because the guards drove them away and destroyed the flyers. Obviously the public has no right to be informed that the leadership through the harmful policy against paedophilia hurt many children, and that the prohibition of abstaining from blood owing to the sanctity of blood overlooked the sanctity of human life itself.
By Sebastijan Ozmec
The religious fight
How to treat excommunicated believers
If you are an independent thinker and you do not like to accept any idea that is served to you, you are likely to risk the disfellowshippment from your favourite religious organisation. This has happened to some Jehovahs Witnesses as well. In the 32nd issue of our magazine we reported about their dispute at the recent Jehovahs Witnesses assembly. The ex-members revealed us some details which do not have much in common with spirituality. The magazine Watchtower which is printed in numerous languages is in the opinion of their former members one of the biggest publishing houses in the world. Religion is used only as a mask so as to hide the business.
In the latest issue of their internal publication Our Kingdom Ministry the leaders of the Society warn their members against using the electronic mail and making their own websites since their official websites should be enough. One of the next serious charges is the prohibition of abstaining from blood which kills people and also little children. Loyal Christians should not mix with a disfellowshipped person. The Scripture says that we should not even eat with such a man. We should avoid any social contact with the excommunicated one..., even with your relative. In the publication it is said that those Christians who respect this rule should have much benefit from it, for in such a way they can show their love for Jehovah.
The apostates say: we and all those who have left the organisation are shunned by our former friends. This is probably the worst thing which can happen to you. The society stigmatises the disfellowshipped persons and throws them away as trash.
By Sebastijan Ozmec
More on http://www.jehovahsxwitnesses.tk!Edited by - izobcenec on 24 October 2002 8:38:50