Posts by Ade

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Someone please explain!!

by noni1974 in

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friends

what is pornea?

?i've heard this term before and i never knew exactly what it meant.why is it diffrant than fornication?

?why when people go to jc do they have to find out if it's been committed?

Kaitekitten wrote"Its anything you do thats both naughty and pleasurable but cannot be described as adultery or fornication.

So rubbing your bits or rubbing someone elses bits, kissing, licking nibbling or otherwise pleasuring yourself or anyone else in any possible way you can think of that is not technically adultery or fornication. If you enjoy it, sitting on the waching machine when its on spin cycle is pornea. If you dont enjoy it, then you are just doing the washing."

Im quite worried by this, i had an ice cream the other day and rubbed the little coloured bits into it , which i quite enjoyed. OOOHHHHH woe is me ive had pornea with my ice cream .

Ade

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What would you notice first if you went back to a Kingdom Hall?

by JH in

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friends

first thing i'd notice is how the old ones got so much older and how the kids became adults and are taller than me.. next thing i'd notice would be how long and dull the meetings are.. *yawn*.

Ade

Lies , boredom , repetition , arrogance , ignorance , bad pronunciation , incorrect translation , seats that make my backside sweat, seats too close together my shoulders dont fit between them , an unreasonable urge to need the toilet ??

im sure there are more reasons lol

Ade

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How can I be free ?

by youcanhaveago in

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friends

can anyone tell me how i find peace of mind ?

how i feel my life is not pointless ?.

i truly feel lost .

Ade

Hi YOUCANHAVEAGO,
with regards to the following my friend ( btw - its great to have you here and i really sympathize with your frame of mind at the moment )

q)Can anyone tell me how I find peace of mind ? How I feel my life is not pointless ?
a)you will have peace of mind by reading the bible and finding out all that youve missed by being caught in the societys deceptions ( worked for me anyhow - if you like to chat about any scriptures - drop me a pm - i'd really enjoy that )

q)I truly feel lost . I am having such a bad time - my family are all JW:s and where do I go ?
a)unfortunatley we all feel that way ( abandoned ) our few friends were jw's now we have none ( and my family never contact me ) you shouldnt ask where to go - youve found us , most of us have suffered this too . if you live uk and want to call me , i'll send you my phone number, if you live locally come round for a tea/coffee )

q)I have no hate and regret nothing because I met my wife "in the truth " and we have 3 wonderful children so how can I regret that ?
a)fortunately my wife saw sense and also doesnt associate with them, she is hopefully soon to write a da'ing letter. i have three kids and also cant say i regret a thing.

q)My life is filled with confusion as my wife and I are no longer together ( another story for another time ).
a) i couldnt imagine living without my wife, she is the one ( besides divine help ) who has gotten me through a serious bot of panic attacks and depression. In your situation i would worried myself to death, your doing well to talk to us about it.

q)If I am honest I have suicidal thoughts , because of my children I am pretty sure I wouldn't do it but they occur .
a)My stepfather has not long commited suicide , he chose to hang himself, i had to deal with it all, tidying the area where he did it , seeing the colour of his skin and removing the rope he did it with etc.partly this was due to the witnesses, and their glorious way of making you feel you are never quite doing enough for GOD.

Please don't think I am being alarmist or attention seeking , I am just lost and want to live out the rest of my days in freedom and with purpose.
a) i had the feeling of this when i was having panic attacks, i thought people may have thought i was seeking attention, i wasnt - it was genuine, you very likely have many days ahead of you truly serving GOD which you havent been doing previously ( even though you thought you were ) , better still i'm sure you will make TRUE friends here, very rarely in life is a much compassion and love passed around as it is with we so called APOSTATES. you will make many friends here and i would be glad to be one of them .

all the very best from my family to you
GOD bless you
Ade and family

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Is the name Jehovah the GOD of the WTBS?

by architect in

if the english version of jehovah is not correct and the wtbs insist on using it based on their research is it right to say that this is the god of jehovahs witnesses?

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is this a correct assumption?.

Ade

Jehovah - There is no conclusive evidence that this is the correct way to say Gods name, but much evidence to prove contrary to it, YahWeh would be a better assumption - however the JW's will say Jehovah is an accepted form of Gods name ( acceptable to whom ?? ), however note that Jesus said we should pray this way " Our father ... " if use of a name was important Jesus would most definatley would have said so

They idolize the faithful and discrete slave class above all else, they therefore anull the scripture that there is but one mediator between men and God - Our Lord Jesus Christ ( the FDS have replaced Jesus role ), they indeed beleive their FDS are infallible ( even though they cant admit this ) and the FDS cant admit they make errors in doctrine etc, therefore when the "light shines brighter until the day is firmly established" it is the brothers and sisters errors that come to light.

To hold a group of people in such high esteem is basically worship or as the WTBTS like to put it "doing obeisance", anyone worshipped is an idol, any idol worship is against God.

So lets all go figure

All the very best
Ade

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The meaning of fruitfulness

by Ade in

i was always taught ( as a witness ) that the fruit spoken of in matthew 13:8 "but other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold.

" was speaking of the amount of people you turn to the truth "the disciples" you make.

matthew 13:23 "but he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it, which also beareth fruit and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty" .

Ade

I was always taught ( as a witness ) that the fruit spoken of in Matthew 13:8 "But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold." was speaking of the amount of people you turn to the truth "the disciples" you make.

Matthew 13:23 "But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it, which also beareth fruit and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty"

After reading on a little and contemplating verses further on in chapter 13 alone i have concluded this passage cannot be speaking of "disciples" as "fruit" because if we revert back to Matthew 13:22 we find the following "He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word, and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful.

Considering Matthew 13:22 we find that the "cares of the world" and "riches" have choked out his fruitfulnes , It must be admitted many witnesses and people of other religions carry on their ungodly habits in private but push forth with pretense on the ministry. Hence they bring forth "fruit" ( disciples ) into their so called truth/religion. therefore still as regards the JW's theory they are producing fruit, this however stands firmly against the scripture, for the scripture states that because of these things ( their worldy lusts and workings ) they are NOT being fruitful.

All i personally see this scripture stating is that the "fruit" are the works we perform as Christians in our everyday lives, our very mode of thinking, the product of the seed that has been planted then fruiting in our actions and thoughts. This still however doesnt make us correct, righteous or acceptable in Gods eyes, only Jesus's sacrifice performs such an action.

All the best
God bless you all
Ade

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The Authority Scripture Witnesses Never Quote

by metatron in

the next time some some self righteous bone head witness puts watchtower leaders up on an exalted pedestal,.

read numbers 12:6-8!.

the liars on the writing staff love to create dramas and other bilge that gives them the authority of moses with all critics condemned.

Ade

i find it easier to turn to the N.T and find that all brothers are equal >:) .so let the elder step forward who is better than any of us here.

Ade

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Explain to me who goes to heaven and those who will live on earth

by JH in

i'm a little rusty.. i remember reading that those who died before jesus's death would all resurrect on earth during the millennium, like john the baptist, who died before jesus.. and mary, although was born before jesus, died after jesus, so she will live in heaven.. so, after jesus's death, who are the 144,000 who will live in heaven with him.

could an old indian living in australia who never heard about jesus go to heaven....lol.

Ade

Maybe,
Paradise is also in heaven ??
Hell is also in heaven etc etc

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Explain to me who goes to heaven and those who will live on earth

by JH in

i'm a little rusty.. i remember reading that those who died before jesus's death would all resurrect on earth during the millennium, like john the baptist, who died before jesus.. and mary, although was born before jesus, died after jesus, so she will live in heaven.. so, after jesus's death, who are the 144,000 who will live in heaven with him.

could an old indian living in australia who never heard about jesus go to heaven....lol.

Ade

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Miracles if you believe

by Ade in

heres a little something i was wondering about and would like your opinions, .

miracles, can they occur , for instance you have cancer and pray to god and the cancer is gone etc.

i dont believe any man can heal you ( faith healers ), for i believe only god or jesus can heal you through your faith.

Ade

Heres a little something i was wondering about and would like your opinions,

Miracles, can they occur , for instance you have cancer and pray to God and the cancer is gone etc.

I dont believe any man can heal you ( faith healers ), for i believe only God or Jesus can heal you through your faith.

or do you believe its ALL hocus pocus

Do you have any experiences of it that you KNOW are genuine ??

All the best
Ade

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This makes me sick!!

by Ade in

i just read this as part of one of jgnat's posts its obviously nothing against her take a look and comment.i mean who are they trying to fool.

out of all creation they are "groaning" the most .

our identification as jehovah's witnesses .

Ade

Hi Rassillon its as follows,

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/9/121063/1.ashx

all the best
Ade