Ok everyone lets see how perfect the FDS class are,
Can anyone find a time when they admitted they were wrong , and it wasnt the brothers and sisters faults ???
if not they must be peeerrrffeeccccttt
i just started this thread to humour myself
Ade
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The perfect Men
by Ade inok everyone lets see how perfect the fds class are, .
can anyone find a time when they admitted they were wrong , and it wasnt the brothers and sisters faults ???
if not they must be peeerrrffeeccccttt .
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What is your purpose here?
by The Scotsman init is interesting to read the posts here.
people desperately trying to convince themselves that they were right to give up!.
is this your purpose in coming here????.
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Scotsman,
everything here comes down to this.
A truth cannot ever become an Untruth , with this you must agree.
Therefore all "truths" by the society ( of which there are many - which can be proved by your own literature and its not all old literature ) must still be truths, however you must admit , they are not still truths otherwise none of it could be subject to change, God doesnt change.And if the founders of your religion were involved today they would be disfellowshipped.
if it wasnt truth it was a lie , if you propagate the fact that you are Gods sole channel and the prophecies/truths are lies, it reflects on your God.
thats it my friend, your religion has proved itself a lie.
If you can show us otherwise please do so
all in favour say AYE !!!!!
your respectfully
God bless you all
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2nd Corinthians 3
by Butters ini want to get a solid opinion on this chapter from everyone.
2nd corinithians 3 is a major set back for those who believe in keeping the 10 commandments.
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Hi Leolaia ,
I think this discussion in itself shows that the average JW is not at all educated in scripture. Hence the reason they cannot break away from the religion, if you know nothing and learn nothing, your faith will amount to nothing but the service of men.
I used to enjoy reading many publications when i was a witness. However i was always told as a Jw not to read too much or it would lead me astray, especially by the elders.I found it strange being advised by a religion not to read their own books.
I believe truly where scripture states "Keep searching and ye shall find" applies to religions, and that if you truly search the scriptures and search for God, Hewill lead you out of the oppresion and rules of men,So the truth can set you free.
God bless you all
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What is your purpose here?
by The Scotsman init is interesting to read the posts here.
people desperately trying to convince themselves that they were right to give up!.
is this your purpose in coming here????.
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Hi Scotsman,
if you read this and dont reply we have to presume you have run from the apostates, which in turn shows we are not apostates ,as the bible states that the truth will win people over , which in turn shows you dont have Gods spirit!!
you wrote the following" It is interesting to read the posts here. People desperately trying to convince themselves that they were right to give up!"
We didnt have to convince ourselves, we actually read the bible in context , if you did this you would leave also. why are you trying to convinve us and yourself that we / you should stay with the lie??
"Is this your purpose in coming here????"please see above ,also no, our purpose is to help people see the truth about your lies from the bibles point of view you are the proverbial "Satan / angel of light" what better way to lead people astray but with MANS religion.
"I have no doubt some have had bad experiecnes within the organisation. But this does not change the fact that this is the truth."Explain this to your BROTHERS Malawai after telling them what happened with the ones in Mexico, bearing in mind that "you cannot share at the table of God and Demons" and that "with Him there is not a variation of the turning of the shadow" how hence can one set of brothers have one command and other brothers have another command ????
"I have never been more sure that this is an organisation with Jehovah's backing. And no, I am not brainwashed, tricked, blinded, etc etc, it is merely the fact of the matter".Firsty, after hundreds of incorrect articles , lies , failed prophecies, you are SURE this is backed by God, considering that God cannot lie. ( please do not quote the scripture - the light shineth brighter as the day becometh firmly established , as i WILL CORRECT YOU on what this scripture means ") , im quite sure HE ( GOD ) is very happy you and your organization just made Him out to be a liar.BTW the very bible you read from was translated by a self confessed Satanist and your society have the gall to insult the KJV!!!.however i noticed whilst examining the latest watchtower that you quote from the NIV amongst other bibles , i find this strange that you have to use a bible written by men of the nations, surely your perfect translation should be enough , please explain ??
"Reading some of the posts here is quite entertaining. What was all the hype about a BIG announcement????????? You try and try again to generate some contraversy when their is none." You still cling to trivialities - NGO status at the UN. This is only a big issue for you, no one else. Mountain out of a molehill." BTW some of your members are still attending these meetings and VOTING at them ?? interesting that you are helping to make decisions in the UN its nice that you condone this .
"Regarding the new tract campaign, it has been very well received (I have to admit I thought it could be difficult to place but no, most people quite happy to take it)".WHY WOULD IT BE DIFFICULT WITH GODS BACKING ?????? after all dont you have the Holy spirit ??? concerning all your extra literature i suggest you read this Eccl 12:12 Be warned, my son, of anything in addition to them.
Of making many books there is no end, and much study wearies the body. ( interesting you have to add and use books to understand the bible , we on the other hand dont have to )
eagerly and respectfully awaiting you answers to the above
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Did you make artificial smiles at the hall?
by JH ini smiled alot at the hall.. but i think it was all artificial !!!.
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well to put it blantantly lol im a right state definately not in the best of health.
But hey how are you >:)
All the best
God bless you
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Did you make artificial smiles at the hall?
by JH ini smiled alot at the hall.. but i think it was all artificial !!!.
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Never did it, it takes more muscles to frown, so i thought what the heck , i'll train my face lol
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2nd Corinthians 3
by Butters ini want to get a solid opinion on this chapter from everyone.
2nd corinithians 3 is a major set back for those who believe in keeping the 10 commandments.
possibly.
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HI,
"So how do we avoid keeping the 10 commandments? And how are they bad? I never understood this as a witness or bible reader. It seems to me that all the things written in the 10 commandments are good, and it seems that the ark is still with God in Revelation 11:19, so how can the commands themselves be gone?"
Its not the matter of trying to "avoid" the ten commandments, if you perform them you are not sinning, as those commandments would be covered fully by the "love you neighbour as yourself commandment and the Love God first and foremost commandment"Your are sinnin if you try to live by them, when Jesus replaced the fact we need to live by a law code as Gods grace currently makes us righteous
The commandments were given ( IMO ) to show Gods chosen nation the way in which they firstly, should live to be a special people to God, Secondly, thirdly, to point to the fact that they werent capable of holding the law to its fullest ( only a perfect man could )showing them they needed a saviour, the scriptures say that basically the law exposed sin, so it shew the people they were far from perfection, therefore prefiguring ( as was done by the prophets and the law ) that something better was to come.During the LAW phase , God was holding mans sin against him as man had a "law code" to live by.
"It seems to me that all the things written in the 10 commandments are good, and it seems that the ark is still with God in Revelation 11:19, so how can the commands themselves be gone?"
If we reason this slowly - the ten commandments are Good ( for a perfect man etc ) would you like to try and live and be judged out of the ten commandments ?? do you think many of us would be deemed righteous ?? i doubt it, as prementioned the commands EXPOSED sin, whilst they are of an extreme righteous standard, it is nonetheless one we cannot attain as humans.
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so briefly according to my understanding ( and some may wish to set me straight ) there is no error in the Ten commandments and no problem with them still being with God, as they were put there for a specific reason at a specific time.They are better than good they are perfect - so we can not possibly attain them in our current form.
I hope this helps
If not Mail me and i will discuss this further with you
All the best
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2nd Corinthians 3
by Butters ini want to get a solid opinion on this chapter from everyone.
2nd corinithians 3 is a major set back for those who believe in keeping the 10 commandments.
possibly.
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HI,
if you carfeully read Leolaia's post then turn to the book of Hebrews reading chap 8:1 - 13 , you will obtain a full answer to any saying the first covenent must be followed to the nth degree even down to the ten commandments. specifically verse 13 .
all the best
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I am replying to his letter.. heres some of it
by Matt_fs inhey folks, i'm sure you have all seen the letters that are going back and forth between my friend about the watchtower, and i wanted to give you a sneak peak of what i have written so far.
if any of you would like to comment on it, and maybe give me some good info to put in, please let me know!
dear ******.
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Matt,
Youve written a very reasonable letter there my friend.Not provoking, just asking him/her to point you in the right direction truthfully from scripture ( which he wont be able to do ) . Also pointing out the history of the WTBTS and FDS he/she may have to check it to see if you are telling the truth, which in turn may lead him to see the changes in doctrine and the false prophecies.
God bless you
all the best
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true friendship, true brotherhood??
by Ade inrecently we received a phone call, .
it was a sister whom we had known from the first kingdom hall we attended .she broke in to conversation concerning my health !!
asking how i was, this firstly was mightily shocking and secondly not allowed as i am da'd.knowing this sister however ( i will for no reason state that she is the wife of an elder, he being a genuine person whom i wish i could draw away from the lies ) i waited for the true reason of the call.
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Hi Daystar;
To me, and again, I mean no disrespect, it seems weak and to have a victim mentality. You become rather easy to push around. In other words, a sheep. Maybe that is what you want. Maybe you assume the shepherd to have good intentions. I do not. I've seen too many "shepherds" have nothing but evil intentions, even if well-intended.
I will just point out i am shepherded by one, that is Christ and no man, neither will i accept even a mans teaching unless it falls inline with scripture. Also there is a scenario whereby the man crosses the road intent on evil, this would shine a entirely new light on the situation, avoidance where possible but wrath also has its place as you state.
Ade