"Keeping busy" is often encouraged. If you follow what they say to the letter, you will have no time for TV or internet or anything else you want to do. That's why people can "simplify" their lives--because soon they have no life outside of the Org. Next thing you know, they've got you listening to magazines on tape, trudging out into FS everyday, studying in your "free time" until late in the night (one recent picture has a "loving elder" studying at 11 pm), and preparing for and attending those meetings. They would like everyone on a non-stop WTS mind control binge.
Pyramid schemes do the same.
SirNose586
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Analysis of a Time Consuming System: Shocking Numbers about JWs
by drew sagan inweekly meetings .
book study: 1 hour .
meetings for field service: 15 minutes (13 hours per year) .
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Shepherding Call
by 95stormfront injust what the hell do i have to do to get my wife to understand that i do not welcome these type of visits?
one elder made several calls to her asking when would be a good time to come by for a visit, yet, when they (plural) get to my home, it's me their primarily interested in talking to.
hell....i didn't ask for a visit and have told them on more than one occasion that i'm entirely satisfied with my life as it is and that if or when i need any assistance from them that i will call them?
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SirNose586
"I've found that being in the middle of cleaning my rifle and .45 works even better."
--Justice-One
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WT magazines in different territories
by New Worldly Translation inwhen i was a jw i always had a question that i don't think i ever got to the bottom of.. it was do the jw's in different countries get different versions of the watchtower and awake magazines?.
it always struck me that the magazines were always very america-centric and a lot of the issues addressed wouldn't be applicable to jw's overseas.
living in the uk i found some of the articles to be extremely patronising and i could only imagine what an african or russian jw reading them would be thinking.. there were articles about conserving money by only taking one holiday a year or only having one car in the family.
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SirNose586
I know this much, that they will put different ethnicities on covers of brochures and magazines appropriate for the region. They know their approach appeals mainly to Western nations. Our P.O. kept telling us how great it was that for What Does the Bible Really Teach?, they scrapped most of the Western illustrations (sin like a computer virus, comparisons to cars, etc.) so the poor brothers in some remote location could understand.
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Masturbation quotes
by 5thGeneration ini didn't want these buried deep in the favorite quotes thread because they are just too dang funny and/or weird.
*** watchtower 1973 sept 15 pp.564-5 breaking free of self-abuse-why?
that masturbation is abnormal and unnatural is also indicated by the fact that abnormal, mentally deranged people are notorious masturbators.
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SirNose586
I remember being asked twice about it before they made me an MS. What, do you want the truth, elders? No way I'm gonna talk about that stuff with them. It's none of their friggin' business.
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Analysis of a Time Consuming System: Shocking Numbers about JWs
by drew sagan inweekly meetings .
book study: 1 hour .
meetings for field service: 15 minutes (13 hours per year) .
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Nice calculations. Let's see what differences I've got. I think they will be in prep and surround time.
Weekly Meetings
School and Service: 1.75 hours (mine runs from 7-8:45)
P. Talk and Study: 2 hours
Bookstudy: 1 hour
Field service: 15 min. (my average is 3 times a month)
Required Meetings: 4.75 * 52 = 247 hours per year
F. Service Meetings: 15min. * 3 per month * 12 months = 9 hours per year
Weekly Study Prep for Meetings
Family Watchtower study: 1 hour (conservative)
School and Service prep: 5 minutes
Book study: .5 hour
Field Service prep: 15 minutes
Study Prep per year: 95.16 hours, or 95 hours and 10 minutes
Weekly Surround Time for Meetings
Sunday and Thursday meetings
Getting ready at home: 25 minutes (conservative)
Travel to hall: 10 minutes
Time before meeting: 12.5 minutes (average estimate)
Time after meeting: 25 minutes
Driving back home: 10 minutes
For Book studies, travel both ways is 3 minutes and time before and after is reduced to 5 minutes each.
Surround time for Sunday, Tuesday, and Thursday per year: 3.43 hours per week * 52 weeks = 178.36 hours per year
Monthly Field Service
4 hours per month (average)
Last year I auxed in December and got a legit 52 hours. So for last year 44 regular hours plus 52 aux = 96 hours in 2005.
Field Service Surround Time
Getting ready at home: .5 hour
Travel to F.S. house: 10 minutes
Chatty time (before we leave): 10 minutes (average)
Break time: 15 minutes
Taking people back to their cars: 10 minutes
Back home: 10 minutes
1.42 hours per fs meeting * 3 per month * 12 months a year = 51 hours per year
Special Yearly Activities
I will keep Drew's calculations. 47 hours per year.
Special Y.A. Travel
S.A.D. travel: 45 minutes
S.A.D. travel home: 1 hour (extra for dropping off people in carpool)
S.A.W. travel and return both days: 3.5 hours
District Convention travel: 15 minutes
D.C. Return: 1 hour (for traffic). So 3.75 hours for all three days.
Yearly Special activity travel: 9.25 hours
Study prep time is all the reading I do of the publications. I don't read yearbooks. Family Study of magazine is all the magazine reading I do, aside from F.S. study prep. Daily text is 3 times per month, for 5 minutes each time, so that is 3 hours per year. (15 min. * 12 months = 180 minutes)
I will include Book Study conducting prep. I've filled in 3 times so far. I imagine it will be 15 fill-ins per year. Book study conducting prep takes at least 4 hours. So I will add 60 hours per year.
The Grand Total
Required and F.S. Meeting time: 256 hours
Study prep for all meetings: 95.16 hours
Yearly surround time for meetings: 178.36 hours
Actual F.S. time: 96 hours in 2005
F.S. surround time: 51 hours
Special yearly activities: 47 hours
Special yearly travel: 9.25 hours
Daily text: 3 hours
Conducting prep: 60 hours
SIRNOSE'S TOTAL TIME IN ORG SERVICE PER YEAR: 795.77
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Now, why would a cannibal want to chew on old folks?
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Went to a witness party....oh, excuse me, "gathering" over the weekend.....
by enlightenedcynic inthe mrs. and i were invited to a "gathering" this weekend.
was just supposed to be some friends getting together for some food and fellowship.
when we arrived, there were a bunch of jw's in the back yard(50 to 100) and the music was pumping loud(not that i minded{smile}).
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"I remember going to this huge party out on some ranch area in a remote area of San Diego w/ a friend of mine. A couple weeks later my friends elders gave a "local needs" talk about how going out to remote places for parties is a big no no . . . The parties were too big and uncontollable and naturally resulted in brother/sisters engaging in immoral conduct."
--sandy
That's how we do!!
Yeah, I remember one party for a friend of my sister that was up in Temecula. The same party down in Diego would've been considered worldly, and would've been broken up....but nobody did anything except break up the more suggestive dancing. The next day people were at meeting like nothing had happened. We like to party in socal... -
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How "old" is the oldest person who lived in your family?
by JH ini was just wondering how old can a person live.
my grandmother lived up to 97, almost 98. .
those born in 1914 are 92 years old and some are still alive.. i guess that no one lived over 120 years since the flood.. how "old" is the oldest person who lived in your family?
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SirNose586
According to my grampa, his great-grandfather lived to be 104.
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Fluff warning! Anyone got any cool smoothie recipes?
by Steve Lowry insorry for this silly thread if it offends, but i finally purchased a blender and i'm looking for some really cool smoothie recipes.
there's a bunch on the internet ,but i wanted to ask y'all if ya had any ideas?
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SirNose586
If you're hankering for a shake...
The Elvis
2 cups vanilla ice cream
1 cup 2% milk
1 banana, preferably chopped and frozen
3 tbsp crunchy peanut butter, at least
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Be Honest: Did You ACTUALLY Report Accurate Field Service Time?
by minimus ini bet most people did not.
i think nearly everyone counted time spent on breaks.
or sitting in the car for an hour and a half while the elders did a "shepherding" call.
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SirNose586
A good 80-90% of my time comes from my imagination. If you're seen at least 3 times a month out in service no one will call your bluff...at least no one's called mine yet.
I'm not that bad though. There was a "pioneer" who hardly ever seen out in service, yet she posted pioneer hours every year. The rare times she was out, she knew how to stretch that time. She'd just end up taking a half-hour to put on makeup, and just loaf around in the car before getting out and actually doing some work.
This "pioneer" is off her rocker now, btw....