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  19th Birthday Party

  by Madame Quixote in

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  my daughter will be turning 19 on the 24th.

  this weekend we're having a dinner party for her at indochine restaurant and then taking her guests to the movies.

  i am so pleased that i am able to do this without one iota of fear or guilt like the jws wish they could still impose on us.

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  but mostly I feel enormously happy that my daughter is such a happy little goth

  Goth? And happy?

  I don't follow.
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  Should I warn this householder of the danger?

  by SirNose586 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was out today and working with a well-indoctrinated brother ("brother b").

  we were hitting houses with tracts then running, until we went on his call.

  brother b was trying to give him an asleep and a tract, and invite him to the talk today, which was given by a bethelite (and it was a heavy indoctrination session, which is another story).

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  It sounds like the householder has things well in hand to me personally. Maybe your time could better be spent warning others who are more unaware of the dangers.

  True. Now that I have a little hindsight of the situation, I'm thinking dropping something off would probably not work out to my favor. I don't know if I could trust the guy to not mention where he got the stuff...and there's really no margin for error here.

  As it is, tomorrow is jam-packed with errands, so I can't drop by during the day. But I'm sure the man will dismiss Brother B in time; after all, Brother B is going to try to "re-adjust his thinking," which will set off some alarms in his head.
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  Should I warn this householder of the danger?

  by SirNose586 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was out today and working with a well-indoctrinated brother ("brother b").

  we were hitting houses with tracts then running, until we went on his call.

  brother b was trying to give him an asleep and a tract, and invite him to the talk today, which was given by a bethelite (and it was a heavy indoctrination session, which is another story).

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  Not to offend you since I don't know - Why do you choose to live the way of a double agent. Even that is offensive to say to you, sorry. I think you should reconsider being "In the Truth" (the word truth is an English term and English dictionaries do not allow for that use, how can one be in something like "truth"?) and wanting people to be un-misled. May I suggest: QUIT. Give NO reason.

  I find myself in the difficult position of being an MS and well-respected in the JW community, yet finding the catalyst to willingly leave good family and good friends. Unlike many here, I have not experienced anything that could make me say, "That's IT! I'm turning in my DA letter tomorrow!" I'm sorry to say, that hasn't happened yet. And so I must plan my escape on my own terms.

  I have to move out and become financially independent before I can do this. Being that I live in San Diego, this will take me a bit longer than others to accomplish. If I were to up and quit tomorrow, I'd be kicked to the curb. The lack of someone who could put me up for a bit were I to be kicked out encourages me to wait until I'm able to move out before I make any waves. Perhaps you're made of sterner stuff than I, but I don't plan on letting the bottom drop out of everything.

  So do I want to leave? Absolutely. And if I left tomorrow? I'd be screwed, which is just what they would want. I understand your viewpoint on leaving ASAP, but this is what I have to do if I want to have a much better chance of leaving and staying out, rather than leaving then coming back with my tail between my legs because I couldn't hack it on my own. My automotive career needs to get off the ground. This is going to take some time; tools are very expensive.

  As for being a "double agent," well don't worry about that. I've learned how to think one thing and say another very well my whole life.

  You must be living under a rock then. Most people already feel like this towards the witnesses, nothing new.

  You must have made some assumptions about my 'hood then. If people where you live have access to the internet, care about news stories, or read the newspaper, then people in your community are LIGHT YEARS ahead of folks where I live. If you were to ask in my 'hood, "Did you see the news last night?", they would not know what you are talking about. I always tried that as a presentation opener, and it never got anywhere. Nobody knew. Nobody cared. Nobody reads. Outsiders come to my congregation and love the territory, because the people are so poor and naïve, the message of playing with a panda forever sells pretty easily. Now, this is not to say no one in my congregation has ever heard "I think you guys are a cult"--but this was the first time I had heard it. Maybe the pioneers hear it and don't talk about it, but I go out a few times for show, so I don't really hear that. You're more likely to find people who just find the dubs annoying. This man was the first one to actually do some research, and I'd like to show him that he was right on the money. I'm off for two days, so I'll be dropping by his place....
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  "Everyone Has Aids"

  by ColdRedRain in

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  when i first exited the troof, that was the first thing i was told by every jw was that worldly girls all carry aids and i should watch out for them.

  it's caused a lot of exiting youth to literally piss their pants after having sex, even with condoms.

  anyways, have you heard of the same mind tricks being played too?

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  Everyone has AIDS, everyone's out to get you, just stay in the Tower and you'll be okay.

  I've had quite enough of that....
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  A 'battle' is won

  by Anony-Mouse in

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  mom has commented twice recently that she is attracted to men with gotees.

  anyways, i read here that beards are not at all banned in the bible (every picture of the bible folks they draw has bearded men), and that it was banned by some power hungery dude in the olden days of the jws (can't remember all those names, erased them from my memory).

  well, i ask her if i can have one, despite never wanting that on my face.

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  Well, something selfless like donating blood is very wrong. But if your conscience allows, you can make free use of someone else's donated blood--so long as it's been fractionated.
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  Should I warn this householder of the danger?

  by SirNose586 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was out today and working with a well-indoctrinated brother ("brother b").

  we were hitting houses with tracts then running, until we went on his call.

  brother b was trying to give him an asleep and a tract, and invite him to the talk today, which was given by a bethelite (and it was a heavy indoctrination session, which is another story).

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  I was out today and working with a well-indoctrinated brother ("Brother B"). We were hitting houses with tracts then running, until we went on his call. Brother B was trying to give him an Asleep and a tract, and invite him to the talk today, which was given by a Bethelite (and it was a HEAVY indoctrination session, which is another story).

  The householder passed on the invitation, saying he needed to take care of chores, family, etc. Brother B says anyone who goes to the meetings will be impressed with the format, and wouldn't regret going (). Brother B mentioned to the man that I and he had chosen this one out of the "smorgasbord of religious choices." The man held his ground, then proceeded to ask Brother B some questions--GOOD questions, such as:

  "Don't you guys only believe that JWs are going to be saved? Doesn't that put God in a box? I mean, as long as I follow the Bible and accept Christ, isn't that enough?" for which Brother B more or less denied that this was true, but emphasised that we were a good choice for fellowship, and promoted the Borganization.

  Then the man took issue that we use "a JW Bible," to which Brother B repeated the lie that "our Bible has been recommended by the top sources for being such a good translation of the oldest manuscripts." Big, bald-faced lie.

  Next, the householder wondered if he was going to die because he'd had blood transfusions in the past. "No, no..." said Brother B. He wondered about the fractions issue. Brother B didn't have much to say to this.

  Further, the man was concerned because his wife "thinks we are a cult." I had never heard a householder this informed about the witnesses! This was like the icing on the cake. He then said he wasn't sure he was ready to do anything with us until he'd researched us completely. But at the end the man said Brother B could come back another day. Brother B and I walked back to the car. I was silent the whole time at the door, letting him take a beating. I could tell that Brother B had been defeated, because he only said one thing about the call as I drove him back to his house.

  So, at this point the guy is pretty much ready to shut out Brother B out of a callback. He doesn't need any more help to see that we're a cult. This man lives close to where I live. I entertained thoughts of dropping a letter containing WT quotes and other internet research quotes on his doorstep...but then I thought, I might have my cover blown, because there's no way I could deny not showing all those quotes to the man. I'd really like to warn this man anonymously, and tell him to warn everyone he knows...so what do y'all think? Good idea?

  Oh yeah--Brother B said that "the man's thinking needs to be readjusted."
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  Who Was Your Favorite School Teacher and Why?

  by compound complex in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  dear grown-up students,.

  a lot of adults were influential in my formative years, but right now i'm thinking of how school teachers got me to where i am today.

  it's one in particular to whom i owe the most.

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  Mr. C, my old band teacher. He ruled with an iron fist.

  To this day if I have a teacher who is all soft and friendly, I can't stand them. I need the stern hand of a taskmaster.
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  Breaking it to my grandparents

  by AirDuster in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so i've been deciding for the past year or so whether or not i want to stay in this religion, and i have decided that i do not.

  i plan on telling my grandparents (whom i live with) this very soon, possibly tomorrow.

  of course i can't be just like "i don't want to be a jehovah's witness anymore", but rather "i don't believe in this anymore, and here are the reasons why".

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  Oh man...

  That reminds me of my own situation. I don't live with my grandparents, but my grandpa is very proud of me and I regard him as my mentor. I can live with disappointing my father, but disappointing my grandpa, that's one that that sort of stays my hand...I would never want to do that.

  Don't become the "evil apostate" just yet. It's hard, I should know, because I am an MS and I have to rock a mask every time I step into that hall. But don't leave until you could survive without them.
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  A Very Proud Grandpa showin' off! ---Pics----

  by gordon d in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  our little princess turned one year old today!!!.

  ..... just wanted to share a photo of our pagan ritual with all my new friends.

  plus, since i'm always the one behind the camera, there are very few pics of me.. ----- of course, my dad couldn't come.... after the invitation was sent, i didn't even bring it up.... it just breaks my heart!.

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  Are you SURE you didn't want the heads of some prophets on platters? You know it's not really pagan until that happens.

  Oh well. Cute picture. I have atrocious table manners so I can relate.
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  Comments You Will Not Hear at the 11-12-06 WT Study (COURAGE/LOVE)

  by blondie in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  comments you will not hear at the 11-12-06 wt study (october 1, 2006, pages 21-25)(courage/love).

  review comments will be in red.

  wt material from today's wt will be in black.

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  "For me the FS is therapy."

  Really? Ok. Do you just shout at every person who comes to the door? Do you drag along a couch and plop yourself down inbetween doors? Maybe you can save money by going out in FS. Just dump your pills and your issues and go and push magazines.

  I took small issue with this during the fam. study and I didn't get lectured. Hooray for that.