If one were to show this to a JW (or JW sypathizer), wouldn't they be likely to say that this woman was an a-typical case, that her 'outing' was Jehovah's way of cleansing the congregation, and that any put down of JW's in general becuase of this is just more persecution?
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BREAKING NEWS: 16:.02: FOSTER MOTHER GUILTY OF ABUSE
by fokyc inhttp://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/displaynode.jsp?nodeid=139760&command=displaycontent&sourcenode=139586&contentpk=16917608&folderpk=80785&pnodeid=139317.
date : 20.03.07. foster mother eunice spry has been found guilty of subjecting children in her care to two decades of horrific abuse.. the 62-year-old, from tewkesbury, beat them, fed them rat droppings, stopped them sleeping and rubbed their faces with sandpaper.
she thrust sticks down their throats when they misbehaved and made them eat dog food.. one daughter was forced to use a wheelchair for four years even though she was perfectly able to walk.. doctors, teachers and neighbours raised constant concerns about spry's treatment of the children but nothing was ever done by social services.. the catalogue of abuse only came to light when one of the children went to the jehovah's witness elders at the church the family attended.. spry, from tewkesbury, was found guilty of 26 charges of cruelty after a three week trial at bristol crown court.
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Did the heavenly calling cease in 1935? Not anymore!
by AnnOMaly inwatch out for the questions from readers in the may 1st 2007 watchtower.
"when does the calling of christians to a heavenly hope cease?
" it's a good'un.. included are the statements:.
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Dozy - Was your 'speculative' QFR for real, or just 'tongue in cheek'? It seemed to me like a plausable way to go more "mainstream" and be able to say in field service (if confronted) "we dont teach that everyone doesnt go to heaven. We just know the number that goes is smaller than the great crowd. Only Jehovah knows the actual number."
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what is kool aid?
by dobbie inisee this mentioned alot here but haven't a clue what it is?
!can somebody put me out of my misery please?i keep thinking of plasters but that's band aid!thanks.
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If someone says to you "dont drink the kool aid" or "thats just kool aid", in reference to some information being given, it is meant to warn you against taking the information at it's "face value" becuase it is believed the information is believed to be false, erroneous, ill-conceived, or ill-logical, despite its; appearance. As a reference, one might say that a good deal of the justification and logic used by JWs for their blood policy (not to mention some of the 'facts' used to support their position) is nothing but "kool aid".
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what is kool aid?
by dobbie inisee this mentioned alot here but haven't a clue what it is?
!can somebody put me out of my misery please?i keep thinking of plasters but that's band aid!thanks.
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Hoping4Change
Kool aid is a sweetened drink mix used to make something akin to juice. In casual conversation (and especially in talks critical of a position set forth), the phrase "drinking kool aid" is a reference to the Jonestown Colony cult where a mass murder/suicide took place under direction from Rev. Jim Jones - many congregants either voluntarily or forced to drank a poison "kool aid" drink resulting in their deaths.
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April 15 WT: Society acknowledges some find its teachings hard to accept
by truthseeker inthe april 15, 2007 watchtower revolves around the congregation, it's benefits and requirements.. the second study article is let the congregation be built up.
under the subheading sticking with the congregation the society acknowledges those who cannot accept a certain teaching even after doing research in their publications.. .
para 14 consider another possibility involving the congregation.
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Sorry to have to have to say this (becuase I typically prefer to stay away from using this label despite what I believe), but articles like this so easily point out why this group is so often called a Mind Control Cult. (See http://www.freedomofmind.com/resourcecenter/articles/BITE.htm#information for Steve Hassan's B.I.T.E model for Mind Control. I believe Lady Lee also has a fine post on here somewhere that compares point by point, the BITE model and the JW practices.) Sorry JW sympathizers, until the organization stops using this technique (as in this article) to guilt people into staying with an orgnaization whose policies have repeatedly broken families as well as led to unneceesary deaths "in the name of Jehovah", this "religion" will ALWAYS be rightfully called a high mind control cult.)
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I've got a copy of the new printing. It's making to be a great read. Nice 'larger than normal size and print. I am wondering if it could have used a bit more reference footnotes though. There seem to be plenty when quoting from old publications, but on other historical matters (at least so far as I have read which is through the first 4 'biographical' chapters on CTR) it'd be nice to know where all that info on him came from.
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Combatting Mind Control by Steve Hassan - with WT References
by ithinkisee in(4) emotional control.
behavior control
emotional control
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The pdf link appears to be broken. Is it available anywhere else?
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I didn't know where to post this..
by I.Wonder inbut i was wondering if there are any good threads or resources that discuss who the faithful and discreet slave really is.
not what the watchtower says but what the bible is really saying.
does the bible identify this "slave"?.
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Hoping4Change
The best thing you can possibly do while researching WT beliefs/practices and history, even if you believe/trust the sources you see anti-witness material from, is to buy/download any/all of the original WT material (or scans thereof) you can and verify what you are reading about. If you read material from Penton, R. Franz (or others), follow up on what they present and the sources they sight so no one can just say that those critical-of-JW authors are disgruntled apostates. No matter what the the JWs say about 'satan/apostate' sources, the bottom line is that it only takes their own publications to see the problems with the organization, its' claims, and their particular take on spirituality and treatment of others.
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I didn't know where to post this..
by I.Wonder inbut i was wondering if there are any good threads or resources that discuss who the faithful and discreet slave really is.
not what the watchtower says but what the bible is really saying.
does the bible identify this "slave"?.
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Hoping4Change
The best thing you can possibly do while researching WT beliefs/practices and history, even if you believe/trust the sources you see anti-witness material from, is to buy/download any/all of the original WT material (or scans thereof) you can and verify what you are reading about. If you read material from Penton, R. Franz (or others), follow up on what they present and the sources they sight so no one can just say that those critical-of-JW authors are disgruntled apostates. No matter what the the JWs say about 'satan/apostate' sources, the bottom line is that it only takes their own publications to see the problems with the organization, its' claims, and their particular take on spirituality and treatment of others.
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I didn't know where to post this..
by I.Wonder inbut i was wondering if there are any good threads or resources that discuss who the faithful and discreet slave really is.
not what the watchtower says but what the bible is really saying.
does the bible identify this "slave"?.
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Hoping4Change
It can be found in a number of places if you look for it, but one place is here: http://www.towerwatch.com/Witnesses/History/a_brief_history_of_the_watchtower.htm . (see 5th paragraph below CTR picture.)