Ok, here's an 'attempt' to figure out what was on that website. I by no means claim to have the story right, but this is how it sounded to me - (I hope this isnt just as bad as the ramblings on that site): It would appear that the writer is claiming to be privy to a certain series of events that he/she believes will touch the top ranks of the organization down to the parents of a certain "he". The events seem to involve a certain "he" who has sexually abused his daughter and also attempted to murder her. The writer claims to have tried to 'help' the 'he' by contacting the father of 'he' (an elder in Pittsburgh). The writer claims to have been 'ganged up on by the wife of 'he' and the motorcycle gang friends of he' once "he" learned that the writer had spoken with the father of 'he'. It was at that point that Bethel sent its representatives (the 'real' apostates' according to the writer)) to try to cover up whatever had happened, by lying to the father, perhaps explaining that the warnings that the writer was telling him werent true. "He", of course is also considered (by the writer) as one of the real apostates who have poisoned Jehovah's Orgnization, and much of the rambling in this piece conveys that 'he' had a certain smugness that he would continue to receive protection from high up in the Organization, and that none of them would ever get caught., when in fact this whole mess of a story is about to be exposed. THe piece is a rambling about how the Organization is about to see a huge shake up, and that a lof of "sleeping witnesses" will be forced to open their eyes.
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High Ranking JWs removed from ministry?
by jimbo ina freind that listens to srn (salem radio news network) said she heard a news blurb today about several high ranking jws being removed over sex scandal.
any one else heard anything???
she indicated brooklyn ny as the location.
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Watching "Knocking" Now, Sunday Night, on WGBH Boston...Some thoughts...
by Seeker4 inok, first, this is not a film that would draw anyone to be a jw.
the witnesses come across as a really odd fundamentalist religion.
they are called fundamentalists several times in the film, and certainly seem quite unappealing.. it's not a film that favors jws.
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Hoping4Change
Does this documentary deal with the level of organizational submission required of members? With the attention that it has been getting (PBS, USA Today, Newsweek), it's too bad there's no way to also send these outlets copies of the most recently studied Watchtower to show the level of complete submission TO AN ORGANIZATION and MEN that is required of Jehovah's Witnesses. The simple facts will speak for themselves, no interpretation, comment, or opinion required. Any discussion/documentary/history on JW's that does not bring this point to the front leaves out one of the HUGEST tenets of this movement and perhaps the single MOST IMPORTANT piece of information that the public at large should know about being a member of this organization; forget the holiday thing, the birthday thing, the flag salute thing and the blood thing - the root of all the evils in this organization lye with this; IMHO.
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Notes on Child Abuse Settlement
by Amazing inthe article by silentlambs is somewhat misleading.
yes, the suits were settled with gag orders.
it is customary to do so in almost any settlement case.
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Sixteen Child Sex Abuse Lawsuits against Jehovahs Witnesses Are Settled
by Dogpatch inpress release 5/10/07.
http://www.freeminds.org/history/16lawsuits.htm.
sixteen child sex abuse lawsuits against jehovahs witnesses are settled.
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Hoping4Change
I would think that the only way it may be possible to get Bill O'Reilly to go with this would be to 1) Of course appeal to his notion of protecting children 2) Reinforce the idea to have him and his staff to do their own research on this issue and 3) Focus on the idea that the intent is not to "bash" the Jehovah's Witnesses and their faith, but to get them to change their policy regarding child abuse. All other doctinral issues and problems that are not directly related should be left out. I think of this becuase I am pretty certain of a recollection of hearing him say once that he wasnt going to give up or renounce his faith just because of malpractice of some Catholic priests around this same issue. I'd love nothing more than to see Bill dig into this becuase I trust that were he to actually investigate behind the Watchtower spin, he would be just a furious as the rest of us with their behavior on this and a number of other matters.
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Sixteen Child Sex Abuse Lawsuits against Jehovahs Witnesses Are Settled
by Dogpatch inpress release 5/10/07.
http://www.freeminds.org/history/16lawsuits.htm.
sixteen child sex abuse lawsuits against jehovahs witnesses are settled.
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Hoping4Change
One of the ironies of today has been that I just got out of the book study where a comment was made regarding evil Christendom and the 'child molestation problems therein. I SOOO wish it were possible to show them the REAL news of today.
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If you are dissasosiated............
by Heather indo the elders have to reinstate you if you start going back to meetings.
i was told a while back that you would be treated as a person on reproff with all restrictions but now i'm hearing that if i go back i will have to wait to be reinstated.....this is such bullsh**.
i really don't want to go back...but my grandmother just passed away last week and i went to the service(it was at the kh) and was able to see my family that for 4 years now has bearly talked to me...and i go to see my 2 beautiful nieces...whom i would love to have a relationship with.....so i started thinking maybe i could go to a few meetings to be able to have something to do with them.....well i went today....i was so upset earlier that i went and smoked a bit to calm me down...heeeeeeee .....so anyway....i was soo irritated and bored all the f-ing answers that some of them come up with....i guess i just keep thinking about the other side...they really do think that those of us on the outside are miserable......i was more miserable today then i have been in years just sitting there trying to pretend.
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Hoping4Change
The prodigal son scrpture is conveniently forgotten during the reinstatement process. I've witnessed it first hand (along with other wt nonsensical atrocities), all in the sake of 'unity' and elders 'judging' a DA person 'not ready' who feels that going back is the right thing to do.this someone has been working on reinstatement (from a disassociation from a few years ago)for over a year, has been vigilant, honest and devoted to the attempt, who was invited back only to be denied. I've cringed and cried as i have watched the pain this person is going through. why is this person doing it some may ask? more than anything else, it is the family thing. The inhumane treatment by other family members, which I have witnessed as well finally took its toll. I have watched from the sidelines as all the 'stuff' i had learned from apostate literature and internet sources became stark reality in front of my eyes. Every evil and accusation claimed on this board (and elsewhere) against this organization I have watched silently unfold as reality.ughhh...i've probably said too much already,,,i need to go cry, just thinking of this nightmare.
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ALERT: All Child Abuse Lawsuits have been settled. Millions cashed out???
by What-A-Coincidence inre: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/8/116108/1.ashx.
a bethel insider in the know told me that all of the child abuse lawsuits where the watchtower bible and tract society was one of the defendants were settled back in the beginning of this year.
i questioned it and called napa myself and they were absolutely settled back then.
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Hoping4Change
Unless I am reading Mad's comments wrong and his intended jpg image post (which is a pciture of a bunny saying 'You're so Dumb"), I believe I have just had my first ad hominem attack directed against me and my question hear on this discussion board. All just for asking a question and hoping that the truth gets out.
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ALERT: All Child Abuse Lawsuits have been settled. Millions cashed out???
by What-A-Coincidence inre: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/8/116108/1.ashx.
a bethel insider in the know told me that all of the child abuse lawsuits where the watchtower bible and tract society was one of the defendants were settled back in the beginning of this year.
i questioned it and called napa myself and they were absolutely settled back then.
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Hoping4Change
Does the "gag order" mean that there cant even be a news story about this with a headline to the affect "Watchtower and Bible Tract Society Settles Child Abuse Cases"? I would think that no details would be necessary, just an annoucnment in the TV and Newspapers about this would be a positive step in gettting people to know about this organization
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Wife finally sees truth about "the truth"
by jakes inwell it has finally happened.my wife is not going back to the meetings again.as you would probably read in my previous posts, i have written a book about my experience in the watchtower organisation which is on the verge of being published.she still tried to cling to what little belief she had in the borg and did not want to read my manuscript.we discussed many of the issues and concerns i had about the watchtower but most of the times it ended in a heated argument.. i was quite surprised when she approached me about two weeks ago and asked to read my manuscript.after reading it she handed it back to me and said she fully supports me in publishing this book.her eyes have been opened to the deception and lies.i think she and a friend had a bad experience calling on one of her so-called jw friends.furthermore, she did not attend this past weekends circuit assembly..
hooray!!!.
all i have to do now is to introduce her to all you wonderful people here on jwd.. jakes.
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Documentary Videos on Cults?
by Hoping4Change inrecently, the history channel has had a couple of fairly decent/informational programs on cults and how they operate (one was a general overview and the other was on jonestown).
i am wondering if there are any other wothwhile videos on/about cults, especially bible based cults available anywhere that do not come from the standpoint of trying to promote an alternative or more mainstream form of christianity.
it would be really nice to see a documentary on how bible based cults work and how they 'cherry-pick' scripture to get members to surrender their free-will to do anything 'those taking the lead' tell them to do.
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