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  What exactly was the proper food at the proper time?

  by Hoping4Change in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  forgetting (and forgiving for the sake of discussion) all of the changes, mistakes and errors between the teachings from the late 1800's to 1920 by the bible students, what exactly was the "proper food" being dispensed during the "proper time" when jesus supposedly made his choice of this group of people to be the sole harbringers of truth?

  i am assuming all of those changes/mistakes/errors, of course were not proper food, so what were the things being taught during jesus's selection that led him to select the bible students?

  is there anything truly unique (and correct/accurate/proper) that can be claimed by the bible students during that time period that could warrant jesus' choice?.

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  Hoping4Change

  Forgetting (and forgiving for the sake of discussion) all of the changes, mistakes and errors between the teachings from the late 1800's to 1920 by the Bible Students, what exactly was the "proper food" being dispensed during the "proper time" when Jesus supposedly made his choice of this group of people to be the sole harbringers of Truth? I am assuming all of those changes/mistakes/errors, of course were not proper food, so what were the things being taught during Jesus's selection that led him to select the Bible Students? Is there anything truly unique (and correct/accurate/proper) that can be claimed by the Bible students during that time period that could warrant Jesus' choice?
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  Defence of watchtower society Links

  by reniaa in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i thought long and hard before making this thread, that many will not agree with it but i think there needs to be balance and people to realise there are alternate viewpoints out there on many of these subjects, the ones that are most spoke about on this forum.

  i was recently sent a full message containing mary's book and these links give the rebuttal to many of her points.

  those that are still open-minded enough feel free to look over them even if in the end you still don't agree at least you have heard both the defence as well as the attack as they are on the internet.

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  your wrong i don't think there error-less far from it but I think that the errors they have are typical of what is found in and human group and if the NT is to believed typically seen in there too

  Reniaa, having not read enough to know (and I don thave the time to go searching through past threads) where you stand, I'd be interested to see a summary/list of the 'error's you are referring to.
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  This one will make you totally sick

  by Cindi_67 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  sounds like it says he abused a minor, 12 years old, for 3 years at a kingdom hall.

  also that the jws did not report the crime.

  if this is accurate, the french will definately go after them as they are not so fond of cults.

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  Hoping4Change

  (sorry for the cross post, but it seemed worthy to do so)

  http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/depeches/societe/20080110.FAP9581/un_temoin_de_jehovah_mis_en_examen_pour_viol_sur_mineur.html

  and the translation:

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  A member of Jehovah's Witnesses was indicted Thursday by a judge of the Tribunal de Grande Instance de Saint-Die-des-Vosges (Vosges), rape of a minor for 15 years. It was left at liberty, told judicial source. He is suspected of having violated between 1986 and 1989 a young girl a dozen years in the room of the kingdom, place of worship of Jehovah's Witnesses, Saint-Die-des-Vosges. The mother of the girl attended itself at the time the association. The victim had committed suicide on 22 March 2006 in front of the kingdom, leading to a judicial inquiry. Five other people in custody were released Thursday. The Jehovah's Witnesses could be prosecuted for not reporting crimes. AP"
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  JEHOVAH'S WITNESS COMMITS SUICIDE IN KINGDOM HALL PARKING LOT!

  by kool aid man06 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  bill bowen of silentlent lambs recently returned home from france.

  the french government is concerned about the activities of the jehovah's witnesses and their strange behavior.

  this sad incident of suicide took place recently in france and bill bowen will discuss it and other information concerning the trouble that the witnesses are encountering in france.

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  Is this it? Found via this: http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-witness/TIMJ68DBNHEKQ08MN )

  http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/depeches/societe/20080110.FAP9581/un_temoin_de_jehovah_mis_en_examen_pour_viol_sur_mineur.html

  and the translation:

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  A member of Jehovah's Witnesses was indicted Thursday by a judge of the Tribunal de Grande Instance de Saint-Die-des-Vosges (Vosges), rape of a minor for 15 years. It was left at liberty, told judicial source. He is suspected of having violated between 1986 and 1989 a young girl a dozen years in the room of the kingdom, place of worship of Jehovah's Witnesses, Saint-Die-des-Vosges. The mother of the girl attended itself at the time the association. The victim had committed suicide on 22 March 2006 in front of the kingdom, leading to a judicial inquiry. Five other people in custody were released Thursday. The Jehovah's Witnesses could be prosecuted for not reporting crimes. AP"
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  WATCHTOWER COMMENTS is getting a WEBSITE

  by V in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in the works, watchtower comments will soon sport a webpage under an prominent counter-jw website.

  toying with the design, let me know what you think.

  site will have embedded videos, links to high-quality downloads and pdf supplimentals.

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  Hoping4Change

  Can't wait for the site! Just a thought - is there any chance that the phrase "Announcing Jehovah's Kingdom" is a copyrighted phrase or subtitle? I'd hate see the site get tripped up by something like that.
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  JW wife says she loves me more often NOW???? Should I test that?

  by oompa in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was pm with a@g and have with others here in the one-in-one-out marriage situation, and have a question.

  time flies.....i have been considered apostate for at least two years now, and it seems my wife says she loves me all the time....almost makes me uncomfortable.

  i have changed, not her, and i realize that.

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  Hoping4Change

  You may find the following of interest as you consider what you can/should do:
  

  www.lancs.ac.uk/fass/sociology/papers/holden-doing-tolerance.pdf
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  What kind of issues/complications?

  by Hoping4Change in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  for a jw facing the possibility of heart/open heart surgery, what kind of issues/complications do they face because of the blood policy?

  does heart surgery mean that transfusions will be required, or are very likely to be required?

  would a jw be counselled by the hlc to not proceed with such surgery becuase of the blood issue?

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  Hoping4Change

  Thank you for the info.
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  What kind of issues/complications?

  by Hoping4Change in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  for a jw facing the possibility of heart/open heart surgery, what kind of issues/complications do they face because of the blood policy?

  does heart surgery mean that transfusions will be required, or are very likely to be required?

  would a jw be counselled by the hlc to not proceed with such surgery becuase of the blood issue?

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  Hoping4Change

  Sorry for the self- bttt, but I thought this may have been lost in the early morning posts as I dont see it in the category under which I originally posted it.
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  What kind of issues/complications?

  by Hoping4Change in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  for a jw facing the possibility of heart/open heart surgery, what kind of issues/complications do they face because of the blood policy?

  does heart surgery mean that transfusions will be required, or are very likely to be required?

  would a jw be counselled by the hlc to not proceed with such surgery becuase of the blood issue?

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  Hoping4Change

  For a JW facing the possibility of heart/open heart surgery, what kind of issues/complications do they face because of the blood policy? Does heart surgery mean that transfusions will be required, or are very likely to be required? would a JW be counselled by the HLC to not proceed with such surgery becuase of the blood issue? Thanks.
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  Open letter to the Watchtower about pending doom

  by Philippus79 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  as i heard the lords' witnesses are again campaigning against the wt in brooklyn.

  they have warned bethels and officials all over the world that nyc/the un might suffer a serious terrorist attack this weekend which might also effect the facilities of the society.

  anyone heard of this?

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  Hoping4Change

  http://www.lordswitnesses.us/index2.htm

  And dig some of these predictions, including the "last day of this world"! http://www.lordswitnesses.us/appointed_time_of_the_end.htm