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distazo
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Netherlands Memorial Attendance 2009/2010
by Designer Stubble ingood news!.
the dutch kingdom ministry shows the following statement:.
this year (2010) 43.372 persons attended the memorial, 100 persons took of the symbols.. the 2009 attendance figure was 51.578.. this means that 8.206 went missing in one single year, a plunge of 16%.. i get the impression that the partakes figure is going up as they now avoid the term "annointed".. .
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2010 drama: historicity of Christians leaving Jerusalem between Roman wars
by Billy the Ex-Bethelite insorry if this has already been discussed, i haven't been around here a lot and i have this question for any history buffs.. this summer's dc is a fictionalized account of first century jehovah's witnesses (gag), leaving jerusalem right after the first attack by rome and fleeing to pella.. http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/members/private/194498/1/drama-audio-only.
other than jesus "this generation" prophecy, the bible mentions nothing directly about this.
even john, who wrote his gospel and letters afterward, makes no hint of events in jerusalem during that era.
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distazo
Actually,
The Aramaic Peshitta (The language that Jesus spoke, from that language an NT exists but having Syraic characters) has a slight but important difference.
It has 'mountain', not 'moutains'. It is rather bad advise, to go to the wilderniss (of judea) and to the hills, as history would get repeated and jews up to massada were slain. (This happened according to the book Maccabeans as well so, why would Jesus sent them to be killed by romans anyway?)
The question would be: Which mountain? Tabor? No, as that mountain was taken by the romans as well (Josephus).
Probably it could have been Hermon which is 2800m high. However, I do not have any historic backup. Just logic.
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JW's Defend 607 BCE Teaching!
by tryingtoexit inmy father (who's an elder) just sent me this link...and i'd like to get yall opinions on it before i call him back:.
apostates and other opposers argue that jerusalem was not destroyed in 607 bce, but in 587 bce, and provide what they claim is archaeological evidence to support this.
if 607 bce is wrong, then the seven times prophecy ending in 1914 ce would be wrong also.. .
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distazo
Hi,
I wonder, which prophecies fail if Jerusalem fell in 587 bCE?
Zacharias 7:1-5?
The coming of the Messiah?
In fact, the general chronology of Bible explanation fails a lot.
For instance, according to Luke (3:1) Jesus started in sept 29 CE. But if he was born in -2 (2 bCE) ALL historical and nasa records (combined with history writer Josephus) of show that Herodes died in -4 that Jesus never could have been born in -2.
We we take the seventy yearweeks prophecy, and start at 455 bCE, this fails as well.
If you get my idea.
So, because of the fact that it 'nearly fits', it looks like not the bible or history is wrong, but _all_ afterward explanations are wrong.
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distazo
Hi All,
I seldomly post here, but...
It is impossible for human, to declare who is the only true God.
It's like dogs fighting with each other about the best true boss you can have. In fact, all the bosses are true :)
Let God himself declare to be true. Until know, no voice has been heard from heaven. No prophet truly can claim to be Gods spokesman.
Meanwhile, Jesus declared who his Father was. I believe that the four books, matthew, luke, john, mark, _are_ about a non-fictious person, Jesus.
So, let's hope that what Jesus according those books has said, is true.
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Do UFO's exist or is this another Cult?
by Witness 007 insome ufo evidence makes me laugh.
like the nasa out in space pictures which obviously show space junk floating in the atmosphere....cattle mutilations????
why would advanced beings repeatedly do this??
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distazo
Crop Circles, can be planned. It's great fun. It's shown at I believe discovery channel, and became great news in the Netherlands, that -we- finally, also had the privilige of a circle instead of England, to which the UFO's had more preference :)
After two days, the joke was disclosed. It was very strict planning and everybody, did the circle at night. It took two nights, the first to mark the circle (nobody could yet see the circle) the second night, everybody cut his/her assigned part. The planning was done off-the-place.
The farmer had agreed with the joke because it gave him a good marketing push.The greatest of the joke was this! UFO specalists came over, and 'measured' the circle. They were sure there was 'radiation' :) (the vibes?)
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144,000
by musky inare there any here who feel they are or were one of the 144,000?
or a reference to a thread on this topic?
i was just wondering.
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distazo
It's just a symbolic number. All who want can partake. The problem is that the New World Translation, those phrases that have 'breaking the bread' in Greek and Aramaic translated with (something like) eating meals.
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WTS PREDICTED THE END OF TODAY'S ECONOMIC SYSTEM!!!!!
by whereami inyes, another "the sky is falling" e-mail going around jw land.
these guys must salivate with what's going on in the financial markets.
they can smell blood.. .
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distazo
Where were they, when the Asian crysis happened in 1997? This was just a few years ago.
But this time, the common Americans feel the pain them selves and now the Awake predicted the end :) yeah, right.
Asia already has recovered. Armageddon did not come then as well :)
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Why choose Jehovah's way?
by wobble inwe have had six thousand years or so of satans rule.and yea he has cocked up big time,but what have we got to compare it with?
we are supposed to choose jehovah's way but we have only "seen" a bit of that in the garden of eden and that didn't go too well,so how do we compare???.
love.
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distazo
One cannot earn anything by deeds. That's b.t.w. the NT story.
One can 'earn' by faith. And what is faith? It is in your heart. :)
It's a present, probably given in future, and if not, so, what else?
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Why choose Jehovah's way?
by wobble inwe have had six thousand years or so of satans rule.and yea he has cocked up big time,but what have we got to compare it with?
we are supposed to choose jehovah's way but we have only "seen" a bit of that in the garden of eden and that didn't go too well,so how do we compare???.
love.
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distazo
The only compare we have, is 'how it would be if...' Jesus were king.
And I think, if you try to read objectively his words, there is a beautifull person who will and can rule with empathy without corruptness and greed.
It's up to you to choose that. And I agree with the others, there is no current comparison, and if you stick to the OT, I'd rather prefer the Greek way of living, eh, the romantic part of it, not the bachus part ;)
And as long as God does not show he's alive and caring today for us, what could we do better than live and let live?
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This is my name, I was a witness, and this is why I will never be again.
by wanderlustguy inthanks to this site, not only am i free of the mental imprisonment, but i am also free of the fear that the society used to keep me and others like me silent.. i am not a witness anymore because the truth is not what we are directred to think it is.
once we allow ourselves to think, it is clear as day that there is no real basis for anyone to take the title of faithful and discreet slave.
there are folders and lists which contain the names of pedophiles who were never turned over to the proper authorities for their crimes.
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distazo
congrats!
Be free.
However, if you grow up as a JW expect some trouble such as PTSS. You will get over it.