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garbruce06atyahooo
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BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS Twisting a life-affirming law into death
by Terry inturning a life affirming rule into a death-dealing policy is an amazing accomplishment.
we can thank the watchtower society for a mindset which makes this possible.. i've gone into great detail before about the watchtower blood policy itself.
it is a blatant and deliberate publicity stunt which takes the rather simple prohibitions of the laws of noah for gentiles on murder .
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Well, I think my apartment is haunted.
by Steve Lowry inyep, thats right, haunted.
i have never had a dwelling place with so many unexplained noise and goings on.
lights that have been turned off, magically turn back on and visa versa.
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garbruce06atyahooo
Cults are among those groups that sometimes use sound and noise transmissions to frighten and harass. There are also devices for making lights that are turned off glow momentarily.
Also big are pinhole spy cameras, nanny recorders and the like. Peeping Toms and other perverts have been caught with those.
To discover more check into the Watchtower Security companies in and near Santa Rosa or look at websites like
http://www.advanced-intelligence.com/video.html
http://www.kgbcameras.co.uk/cameras/spy-camera.htm
The voice and light devices sold by companies like those above pale in comparison with those used by the CIA, military, cult and paramilitary organizations. Theirs are smaller, sometimes microscopic or close to it.
Cultists who send pedophiles among those going door to door are scared stiff of being discovered or having it pointed out what they are doing. They are weakling and YOU, not they, are actually in control and have greater power.
Some interesting sound effects are that they may play noises of the wind howling, crying children or crowing roosters, a cat meowing, a cricket chirping, the voice of your marriage mate calling out to you and the like.
Another electronic cult tactic is to place a micro-transmitter in your bedding then play low-level words or phrases while you are asleep for example: "God, storm, fear, return, return." This could have the effect of your waking up, thinking something like "I dreamed God wants me to go back to the kingdom hall."
Lots of civilian contractors work for the U.S. military which helps them out with its expertise. Sometimes the contractors retire, join a religious group and, still having some of the best devices in the world, use those to help the religious group. Also, the cults sometimes have their own security companies or have close personal or business ties with security device companies owned by fellow cultists.
That's my take, anyway. Time to time others have complained of the same stuff going on on this same jehovahs-witness.com website, and I believe this is the logical answer for most if not all of it.
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JWs drove out of hood with flier STILL attached to windshield!! LOLOLOLOL!!
by sf ini'm still laughing about it.
they wouldn't even touch it!.
so i see two young guys with briefcases coming down the sidewalk.
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garbruce06atyahooo
It was Can. who posted about littering. I posted that taking lots of their magazines but trashing them could help cost them a lot of money. Also each time they come back you can get the names of themselves and other JWs they know or have along with them, then mail them information to educate them to the real truth, and which they can also photocopy and mail to other JWs.
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How Much The WTS Pays To Print And Distribute Its Magazines Per Item
by garbruce06atyahooo in.
on another thread i gave a what-if situation using 10 cents per magazine although i'm thinking that with the cost of the printing presses and software factored in it could be more.
who knows or can give a good estimate?
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garbruce06atyahooo
On another thread I gave a what-if situation using 10 cents per magazine although I'm thinking that with the cost of the printing presses and software factored in it could be more.
Who knows or can give a good estimate?
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JWs drove out of hood with flier STILL attached to windshield!! LOLOLOLOL!!
by sf ini'm still laughing about it.
they wouldn't even touch it!.
so i see two young guys with briefcases coming down the sidewalk.
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garbruce06atyahooo
Another way is to ask their names and those of their spouses so that later you can look up their addresses and mail literature to their homes where out of view they will tend to read the whole thing.
Also you can say "Sure, so long as it's free give me all the magazines you can spare and feel free to come back and leave them for or with me all you guys want." Then when they've left you tear up and trash the literature.
Doing this repeatedly can cost the Watchtower Society money and keep the material out of the hands of unknowing members of the public who might otherwise get converted.
Let's say it costs them as little as 10 cents per magazine for actual production etc. If they bring you as few as ten a month that's $1.00 or $12 a year and over a decade $120. Still sounds small but if you and say 1,000 other people do that then it becomes 1,000 x 120= $120,000.
Besides helping drain them financially you also get lots of addresses of JWs to mail items revealing the real truth.
You approach is okay too but now they'll just move on to other unsuspecting targets. The truth also is that some kingdom halls have elders who will stake out the homes of reported opposers.
If you get harrassed by unseen persons making noises like by bouncing rocks off your ceiling, by noisemaking devices and so on, then you will have a good idea of where it's coming from and let it motivate you to do all the more to expose their a la Ted Jaracz and company buddies pedophile protection policy and the other baloney.
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What was the wildest thing you saw an elder do or say?
by jambon1 inafter replying to a recent thread, it made me think:
i`ll bet that there are some wacky elder experiences out there.
what was the wackiest thing you saw an elder do or say?
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garbruce06atyahooo
Taking it that your word "wild" can also mean repulsive, this is my witness to something which happened I'm only guessing about ten years ago.
A District Overseer elder who was Afro-American was talking at a district convention. He began jumping on a black JW woman who was carrying a crying baby in her hands saying in approximately these words "I'm an Afro-American man and can tell you that the Afro-American woman with the loud baby who has the blond hair didn't get that hair naturally. You see it doesn't happen."
In other words he was singling her out, a way of making fun of her and jumping onto to her for not getting her baby to not be crying and disrupting his talk.
Well, he was wrong. There are persons of African and among Pacific Ocean Melanesian islanders who have red and even blond hair. To me, though, he was even wronger for his rudeness. But, no, that's not the whole of this true story about the guy.
Later I had to go into the men's bathroom. The bathroom that I entered had no stalls. They were wide open. There the same D.O. was sitting on a commode making no pretense whatsoever at modesty, his privates area open.
My stomach turned sick. I just couldn't believe that a man of God or even a man pretending to be a man of God could not only be so verbally crude but so exhibitionistically crude.
I left at once feeling embarassed to be a JW and wondering how such a quack could have risen to become a D.O., that is until I read that Pat Garza openly alleged Ted Jaracz now on the Governing Body of JWs of having molested herself and other kids when a D.O. in Los Angeles.
At that moment a lot of things clicked together and my eyes open wide in astonishment as I realized from that and many other things I'd seen and heard that a lot of the JW elders who do their most to hide child molesters have their own little stalking and harassment groups that communicate with each other.
In fact, moderators permitting, I think I'll start posting a series of such observations made while a JW in good standing. If so permitted I'd like to call it something like JWs - "Just The Facts, Friends"
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Where do you go for fellowship now?
by garbruce06atyahooo inif you're not become an atheist or non-christian then please answer where are you attending for fellowship now?
i go to an online fellowship http://groups.yahoo.com/group/christianwitnesses/ .
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garbruce06atyahooo
If you're not become an atheist or non-Christian then please answer where are you attending for fellowship now? I go to an online fellowship http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ChristianWitnesses/ .
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Did Jesus believe that the end would come in his lifetime? (Mark 14:62)
by truthseeker indid jesus believe that the end would come in his lifetime and did he prophesy this?.
if we read mark 14:62, in answer to the chief priest's question "are you the christ, the son of the blessed one?
", jesus answers.
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garbruce06atyahooo
Christ did indeed go up to heaven in their lifetime, sat there and ruled in their lifetime over all true Christians and still does so in our own lifetime. He will return in a more visible way in the future.In a similar way the great tribulation or persecution began in the time of Christ's generation and has continued up to this day in one nation then another, for example in the Sudan of Africa and in Communist China. It's great in the sense of having gone on 2,000 years and in its ferocity.
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Announcement: Another favorable court ruling regarding Napa County lawsuit
by AndersonsInfo ini'm thrilled to tell you about the latest court decision made in california a few days ago which kimberlee norris said would be announced today, monday, on jwd.. on july 3rd, i started a thread where the last two rulings in the napa county, california lawsuit, charissa w. v. watchtower, new york, et al., were posted.
both decisions were favorable to the plaintiff.
see http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/8/116108/1.ashx.
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garbruce06atyahooo
As was said by someone else, if they appeal it then more and more of their dirty laundry will come to light, opened up in the court. Either way they go, they're in an enormous hole.
I also like what someone said about the court indicating that they systematically force what is actually the taking out of and maintaining of insurance, a clear court-noted evidence that they are just a "charitable" religious organization but operating as a gigantic at-profit company.
As was said by the other commentator, this means they also stand to lose their tax-exemption as a non-profit corporation/corporation conglomerate. (Indeed, please do inform the IRS as well as the FBI and others eyeballing the misleadership of the Watchtower Society. I don't know their email. If some reader does, then please use it!)
Well, and so the IRS brought down gangster Al Capone over tax evasion, and now so why not the Watchtower Society including its top-bottom network of pedophiles and pedophile-backers!
I only wish Pat Garza, who stood up in public and alleged Watchtower Gov. Body bigshot member Ted Jaracz raped her and a couple other kids she knew when he was a District Overseer in Los Angeles, had not died of cancer so that she too could see this. I bet though she sense the end for them was at hand.
The day is getting brighter.........................................
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Another lawsuit... this one in Oregon.
by Elsewhere incomplaint: negligence, breach of confidential relationship, intentional infliction of severe emotional distress.
once again the elders appointed a convicted and confessed child molester to a position of responsibility as an officer and ministerial servant of the congregation.
this time the accused name is jerry anderson crabb of the lancaster congregation of jehovah's witnesses - 4795 macleay road se, salem, or 97301. sadly, as one would expect, he has been accused of sexually abusing a child on multiple occasions.
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garbruce06atyahooo
It'll be on http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ChristianWitnesses/ pretty soon. That's where all the news is.