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  I'm hearing voices.

  by seahart in

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  this morning i was talking to my wife, and as i uttered a phrase, i swear my fathers voice came out.

  i had to stop for minute.

  i started to reflect a little and realized that i have alot of his mannerisms.

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  It's all in the genes! I'm sure conditioning has its part too.
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  JWs and the Internet

  by JW_Researcher in

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  i posted the question below but it may have gotten lost in the shuffle.

  nina indicated that the jws have been "instructed" not to use the internet.

  my understanding was that they were to use caution.

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  Many in the local KH go to the lengths of being anti-computer! Internet is considered evil in some family circles that I know. A couple elders drill this message in their talks whenever they can.

  It's been addressed in WTs, KMs, for the past few years from cautionary- to outrite avoiding internet if possible. Rather than focussing on benefits of this technology, it's shunned for it's access to pornography, worldly association & entertainment, and apostate influence.
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  Reading the Bible Made Me Leave "The Truth" – & Christianity

  by Seeker4 in

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  i was looking up a couple of verses the other day in my nwt reference bible the one with larger print, footnotes, cross references, etc.

  in my day i was quite a diligent student - the bible is filled with my notes and comments, and i'd already worn out another one earlier.

  one of the things that i found surprising as i was reading my notes, was how often they were pointing out inconsistencies, contradictions and obvious lies in the biblical text.

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  Nothing that I studied specifically threw me out of "the truth", but I'd read one thing, and it wouldn't make sense, and I'd push it away because that was "independent thinking". And then this would happen the next week. And the next week. And I was always successful, pushing it away, because the alternative was unthinkable... until it wasn't unthinkable anymore.

  Studying Daniel's prophecy at the BS did this to me. My latest turn on has been delving into a little bit of ancient history. So I'd do my homework from other non WT sources. I found the Daniel Prophecy book profoundly 'over doing it.' I mean how the society comes up with these modern day parallels of fulfilled prophecy made no sense. I'd sit back and wonder where everyone elses heads were at. But here I was thinking oops-my independent thinking again, I better not start leaning on my own understanding!

  We have the WT calendar on the fridge. The other day, I'm filling up my water glass, as I stare at that huge deadly rock encased in Goliath's gushed head. What morbidity is that hanging in my house? Yeah so even the calendar makes me think about leaving.
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  Why do the majority of "newbies" disappear ???

  by kid-A in

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  i have noticed that, in general, there is a "core" of regular posters on jwd that have been members for several years.. however, it seems the vast majority of "newbies" disappear after a couple posts, days or perhaps a week.

  how many "welcome" or "introduction" .

  threads have we had here where the new member disappears within a day or so, never to post again?

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  I read here almost every day but i was assigned such a difficult password that I feel lazy to log in. Is there a way to change it?

  Hello Flag! This was the first thing I did when I registered. The password was crazy!!!!! 1. Top left corner of your screen, beneath your user name click on profile. 2. Type in a simple new password in both the password box and confirm box. 3. Click update. That's all I did!
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  Hello To Everyone! I'm new here...

  by tremoka in

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  it has been a cycle of being a full fledge witness then reverting to a state of total inactivity for my family and i. we do awesome for a month or 2, then we're missing in action for another 6 months.. where i am breaking this cycle, i say no more, my husband who was raised in the 'truth', remains inactive yet devote in heart.

  i respect that.

  this is all he's ever known.. however, i was raised a good little mormon girl, left one church claiming to be the only true religion, i know i can do this too.

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  Everyone- thanx for the warm welcome!
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  Why do the majority of "newbies" disappear ???

  by kid-A in

  1. jw
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  i have noticed that, in general, there is a "core" of regular posters on jwd that have been members for several years.. however, it seems the vast majority of "newbies" disappear after a couple posts, days or perhaps a week.

  how many "welcome" or "introduction" .

  threads have we had here where the new member disappears within a day or so, never to post again?

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  As soon as I found this forum-I had to join! I find that the issues addressed here are NEVER spoken of or aknowledged within bonds of friendship in the org.

  We all think them, but too on guard or insecure to admit it in the open. My first post was the 1st time I had verbalized those feelings outside my head!

  For these reasons I believe this forum is unique to others. Perhaps the high turnover newbie rate is becuase they're simply not ready for more yet!

  It's a gradual, slow, awakening process.
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  Hello To Everyone! I'm new here...

  by tremoka in

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  it has been a cycle of being a full fledge witness then reverting to a state of total inactivity for my family and i. we do awesome for a month or 2, then we're missing in action for another 6 months.. where i am breaking this cycle, i say no more, my husband who was raised in the 'truth', remains inactive yet devote in heart.

  i respect that.

  this is all he's ever known.. however, i was raised a good little mormon girl, left one church claiming to be the only true religion, i know i can do this too.

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  But I truly do believe THE HOLY SPIRIT comforts us during these very upsetting days,,, If the WT IS right ,Then THAT is NOT the GOD I worship !!! My God is the GREAT TEACHER!!!! If I request His presence EVERY MORNING ON RISING!!! & can remember to leave my woes at the foot of the cross. Spend time in speaking to him through out the day... I find I have that very peace HE promised. It is only when I take my woes back !!!! I get frustrated.

  Mouthy, I am glad I got to meet you before you left the board!!! Thank you for your comments. That's what has me confused as well! I feel more peace than I ever did in my years of being a JW-now that I'm living according to what I think is best for me and my family-not the dictates of some crack pots as LDH put it. lol

  Yeah, that's kind of my resolve as well. I'm picturing a different God than the WT. If they're right, well I have peace in knowing that I lived the best I could, I tried what I thought was right!

  I think true faith is when we leave our woes with God, so we can move forward. It is when we place these burdens upon ourselves that we become crippled in our life course. There's soooo much good to be done and enjoy out there!
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  Now Brothers........

  by geevee in

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  how many times did the chairman at the meetings address the whole cong as "brothers" where you are?

  one [note... one of many] of my peeves was this one guy in particular would always address everyone there as brothers, whether the wore skirts of not.

  now brothers, yes that includes the brothers in skirts with long hair and earings..... .

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  Not positive female validation for all those young impressionable female minds. My daughter, an early teen always asks why women aren't included with the 'brother' intro, why they can't give solo talks, privileges etc.

  Never mind the negative view it contributes to on the young guys. Sad to say that there are a few of these men that treat their wives as second class citizens in the KH here. I've been known to keep your wife away from me 'cause I'm outspoken, opinionated or have ideas. hee hee

  I'm sorry but I'm not going to sit back and watch some father condescend to or belittle his daughter because of her 'feminine' ways in front of other young kids-it's sooooo wrong.
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  Hello To Everyone! I'm new here...

  by tremoka in

  1. jw
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  it has been a cycle of being a full fledge witness then reverting to a state of total inactivity for my family and i. we do awesome for a month or 2, then we're missing in action for another 6 months.. where i am breaking this cycle, i say no more, my husband who was raised in the 'truth', remains inactive yet devote in heart.

  i respect that.

  this is all he's ever known.. however, i was raised a good little mormon girl, left one church claiming to be the only true religion, i know i can do this too.

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  It has been a cycle of being a full fledge witness then reverting to a state of total inactivity for my family and I. We do awesome for a month or 2, then we're missing in action for another 6 months.

  Where I am breaking this cycle, I say no more, my husband who was raised in the 'truth', remains inactive yet devote in heart. I respect that. This is all he's ever known.

  However, I was raised a good little mormon girl, left one church claiming to be the only true religion, I know I can do this too. 'tis very simular. I still have nightmares of leaving the mormon church, that what I was conditioned as, that's how I grew up! That's what I've known. In becoming a witness, my brain thought it had found the truth but something in my heart felt wrong. Yet I attributted it to lack of faith, spirtually weak etc. I was a deeply spiritual person-I sought truth, did not stand up for man made and evolved doctrines. What a slap in my face 14 years later that awoke me caught in another leg trap. I'm not sure where I stand religiously except for the knowledge that I hate organized religion yet I still want a relationship with God.

  Confusion is the state that I'm left in.

  How do you go from seeing the non-christian origin in holidays etc to cross the fence and actually celebrate them?

  How do you look at the very real state that the world is in and not hope for some divine help or intervention?

  How could God leave us hear with his word the bible and allow so much diversity in it's interpretation?

  These are some things that I'm currently chewing on.

  I'm just looking for different, perhaps critical insight and perspective.

  Thanks to all!!!!!!
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  The very night I join this forum, the PO calls me...

  by tremoka in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yeah so monday night i sign up, make my first post and our po calls, whom i'vent heard from for 6 months, i've not attended one meeting, missed my first memorial ever, missed my first convention ever, and he calls leaving a message for me!

  not the inactive head of this household but his lowly inactive wife.

  things that make you go hmmmmmm....... apparently it's the co visit this week????

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  Hey Serendipity!

  No, I don't think I'll call back. I just want to move on and get ahead with my life. I'm so drained and exhausted of all of it. Yah no what I mean?

  Besides, I'm curious to see what will happen next. Will they continue to pursue my little lost flock???

  I mean I have to be careful. Political manouvers with whole family being JW's, JW business ties etc... we could really screw ourselves over.