literally and figuratively.... if you don't know my story, its the basic "i'm gay and from a family of jws" and lately it hasn't been going well.
i'm still saving up to move out, but that "meeting" i was suppose to have with the elders is scheduled tonight.
it was scheduled tuesday night but i dodged that bitch hard.
Please hang in there. Anything can happen in the future.
My stepson is gay. As a JW stepmom, I know that I totally condemned him. After all, that was the JW view of life, right? I am now free of that mindset and I would love to let him know that he is welcome as part of my family anytime. He has to hide what he is with his JW father. While I still personally would rather he was not gay, I have learned the God loves unconditionally and this is what I should do as well.
There is hope.
due to the fact there are about 27,000 members of this religion that are known pedophiles, and the information about it is kept in a secret database file, i wonder how many lurking jw's as well as others are aware of the severity of this problem?
remember, it's 27,000 pedophiles that they know about.
what about the thousands that don't get caught?
I knew of an elder who was abusing a teenage boy in the KH. Nothing happened to him, except he was eventually removed as elder (not for the molestation).
I knew of another father who molested his children - the nonJW aunt told me about it - she was our homeschool supervisor and she hated JWs as a result. Nothing was done about it.
We had another registered molestor in our KH. Nothing was said to us about him. He constantly tried to work with our kids in service and touching them - before I even knew his history, he made me very uncomfortable. When I found out (via poster at the Post Office), I was sanctioned for 'gossiping' by the elders.
passionate topic.
if you have kids, when/ever is it okay to use a spanking as punishment?
did your parents spank you growing up?
Repeatedly and forcefully. Who didn't get spanked at the KH? The lucky ones got taken outside or to the bathroom. (Wait, I think they told parents to stop taking the kids outside because the neighbors might see). I got spanked in the seat during the meeting, and Lord forbid I should make a sound about it.
As far as it's usefulness, I think up to a certain age, if the child is heading for something life-threatening (running into street, scaling the bookcase), a well-placed swat on the bottom is perfectly permissable.
i was just wondering how can i get a hold of older wt publications.
i am still going to meeting as i live with my parents and have access to the hall but i don't see that many older books and even the cd stops at 1950. so how can i get these books and articles?
any suggestions would be appreciated.
we're looking at installing a home security system and there appear to be many pros and cons.. anyone have any experience at this and do you have an advice on what we ought to watch out for?.
Rottweiller... Always on, instant alarm and burglars would rather not mess with TEETH.
we recently hired a sales person for our company.
she is a friend of a a friend of the owners.
it's a small company and a lot of the time i'm alone upstairs in our office.
I'm with Warlock. They should have some security at your job, armed security, if they expect you to stay. My boss knows of the restraining order I have and he carries a gun in his pickup out front. And we have security guards. After the U of Wa shooting, there is not point in not being careful.
just curious....as i can't quite figure out why they do not take part in thanksgiving.
it's such a lovely family holiday.
thanks for any info.. lavendar .
*** w97 9/15 pp. 8-9 Do Harvest Festivals Please God? ***
Pagan Links
Disturbed by the secular nature of the traditional harvesttime banquet and the drunkenness associated with the celebration, an Anglican clergyman in Cornwall, England, decided in 1843 to revive a medieval harvest custom. He took some of the first grain harvested and from it made bread for the communion celebration in his church. Doing so, he perpetuated the festival of Lammas—a “Christian” celebration that some say had its origin with the ancient worship of the Celtic god Lugh. Thus, the modern Anglican harvest festival has a pagan origin.
What about other celebrations that take place at the end of the harvest season? According to the Encyclopædia Britannica, many of the customs that mark these festivities trace their origin to “the animistic belief in the corn [grain] spirit or corn mother.” In some regions the farmers believed that a spirit resided in the last sheaf of grain to be harvested. To chase out the spirit, they beat the grain to the ground. Elsewhere they wove some blades of the cereal into a “corn dolly” that they kept safe for “luck” until seed-sowing the following year. Then they plowed the ears of grain back into the soil in hopes that this would bless the new crop.
Some legends associate harvesttime with the worship of the Babylonian god Tammuz, consort of the fertility goddess Ishtar. Cutting off the ripe head of grain paralleled Tammuz’ untimely death. Other legends even connect harvesttime with human sacrifice—a practice that Jehovah God detests.—Leviticus 20:2; Jeremiah 7:30, 31.
What Is God’s View?
God’s dealings with ancient Israel clearly reveal that Jehovah, the Creator and Source of life, demanded the exclusive devotion of his worshipers. (Psalm 36:9; Nahum 1:2) In the prophet Ezekiel’s day, the practice of weeping for the god Tammuz was a ‘great detestable thing’ in Jehovah’s eyes. This, along with other false religious rites, caused God to shut his ears to the prayers of those false worshipers.—Ezekiel 8:6, 13, 14, 18.
Contrast this with what Jehovah God instructed Israel to observe in connection with the harvest. At the Festival of Ingathering, the Israelites held a solemn assembly during which young and old, rich and poor, lived in temporary dwellings decorated with the lush foliage of splendid trees. This was a time of great rejoicing for them, but it was also a time to reflect on the deliverance God had granted their forebears at the time of the Exodus from Egypt.—Leviticus 23:40-43.
During the Israelite festivals, offerings were presented to Jehovah, the only true God. (Deuteronomy 8:10-20) As for the aforementioned animistic beliefs, the Bible nowhere speaks of produce, such as sheaves of wheat, as having a soul. And the Scriptures clearly show that idols remain inanimate, unable to speak, see, hear, smell, feel, or offer their worshipers any help.—Psalm 115:5-8; Romans 1:23-25.
Christians today are not under the Law covenant that God concluded with the ancient nation of Israel. Indeed, God ‘took it out of the way by nailing it to Jesus’ torture stake.’ (Colossians 2:13, 14) Jehovah’s modern-day servants live by “the law of the Christ” and respond appreciatively to all that God provides.—Galatians 6:2.
The apostle Paul plainly stated that the Jewish festivals were “a shadow of the things to come,” adding, “but the reality belongs to the Christ.” (Colossians 2:16, 17) Consequently, true Christians accept the Scriptural reasoning: “The things which the nations sacrifice they sacrifice to demons, and not to God . . . You cannot be drinking the cup of Jehovah and the cup of demons.” (1 Corinthians 10:20, 21) Moreover, Christians heed the directive to “quit touching the unclean thing.” Do harvest festivals in your neighborhood have pagan or false religious overtones? If so, genuine Christians may avoid displeasing Jehovah by declining to have any involvement in such contaminated worship.—2 Corinthians 6:17.
When an appreciative child receives a present from his father, whom does he thank? A complete stranger or his parent? By heartfelt prayer God’s worshipers daily thank Jehovah, their heavenly Father, for his bounteous generosity.—2 Corinthians 6:18; 1 Thessalonians 5:17, 18.
i don't even want to touch thisyet,but if it turns out that he's the perp this jw connection will be explored further this is the biggest news in europe the reward is up to $5 million as big a case as jonbenet ramsey was in the usa madeleine: is robert murat suspect or scapegoat?.
daily mail, uk -.
she's a jehovah's witness and she's still married.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/134492/1.ashx Yes, I agree that the whole JW angle just never added up. The earlier story (thread above) totally did not make sense.... And no, I would not go to dinner leaving my toddlers alone. Good grief, I worry about leaving the windows open when the children are asleep upstairs in my own home.
edited because someone came through with the picture and i think this deserves it's own topic.. i am deathly, i mean deathly afraid of snakes.
most people don't understand or grasp the exent i am afraid of them until they see the ultimate reaction.
my husband witnessed the worst one since we have been together the other week.
The ark picture always puzzled me because there were dinosaurs pictured as drowning, (and other most unnatural animals). My mom said that was because they were Nephilim pets. The Daniel picture made no sense, because lions crush the skulls of their prey first thing and Daniel was surrounded by nice whole skulls with the lions. And, yes, I am deadly afraid of snakes.
ha ha.
it's my first day and i just can't get enough of jwd.
i feel like i'm actually protesting and it's great.
I don't have to imagine... My last meeting - I was so sick that I could hardly walk down the aisle to my seat. Nary a soul cared... I came to work the next morning among those terrible worldly people and they immediately wanted to call 911 or take time off from their work day to drive me to the doctor. But I was df'd so maybe not worthy of the elders caring about me?
My mother (an older anointed sister) is not df'd. She broke her right arm. Do you think I could get one soul from her KH to give a shit? To take her to the doctor, cook her a meal, just basically check in? They all said "Oh, we will announce it at the bookstudy and see if anyone wants to check in on her?" The df'd daughter had to drive 70 miles after work to take care of her, she had to take time off work to take her to the doctor. Not that I minded, but isn't the congregation supposed to take care of its own? And not leave it up to the evil DF'd apostates whom the mother shouldn't be talking to in the first place?
