as a jw, i was taught the wrong idea of what the trinity is.
the concept of the trinity does not teach that the father is the son.
Cass,
I see, I think? You are asking if a person does not believe in the trinity....?? I will say it a again. I am Not God.........You are asking me to judge others based on their understanding of the scriptures? I won't do it, Cass. I cannot see the heart of man, can you? We have but One judge. Have a good night.
i think for me, it is if someone doesn't believe that what i say is sincere or honest.
i find that insulting.
what about you??
who me?....I've been called the daughter of satan.
as a jw, i was taught the wrong idea of what the trinity is.
the concept of the trinity does not teach that the father is the son.
Cass,
Why are you hijacking here? I have no idea what will happen to you as I am not God.
i was reading craigsa's post from his mother to his wife regarding how jws are baptized....and they arent baptized in the name of the father son and holy ghost as she so pointedly said twice.
all you jws out there who browse this forum...listen up!!
here are the questions you are asked when you are baptized and the changes to them over the years....do you see fs and hg mentioned anywhere here???.
Thanks for the post. I remember reading this before but it still sickens me.
Heathen,
Yes, the wt does have it backwards like most everything else. Christians generally are called to Christ in a "come as you are" mode. The changes then take place within the heart, not by man's rules, but by the Spirit of God.
as a jw, i was taught the wrong idea of what the trinity is.
the concept of the trinity does not teach that the father is the son.
Kingpawn and Ravyn,
I think that it is very important to note that in the Athanasian creed, where it says Catholic....that DOES Not refer to the Roman Catholic religion. The creed was written long before the Roman Catholic church broke from the Greek Orothodox Church. Roman Catholisism actually began in the year 1054 AD. Rome gave it's support to the popes while Orthodoxy did not. The term "catholic" in the creed merely meant "universal" and had nothing to do with Roman Catholosism. I recently only learned of this as well. love, dj
Cassi,
Your panties are in a twist! Chill. I am not God and do not even consider what will happen to Gumby. He has made his choices in his life, he knows the gospel and accepted it and was baptised as a born again Christian in a Baptist church. Now he bashes the beliefs that he once held. In my opinion it is a very difficult task to be a Christian, we are at war internally on a daily basis. As far as I know that is what Gumby is going thru as well. It is serious and an initense spiritual battle. I do not condemn him but I also am not going to reply happily to his rudeness and sarcasms. I have nothing against gumby and he knows that. He doesn't need you coming to his defense against me..lol. I am hopeful that he will stay strong and find the answers that he is seeking. I do not think even for a minute that Gumby will fall by the wayside spiritually, there is a deep longing and once he has "suffered" through it God will strengthen him again. he won't be snatched away forever...even though he may feel that way now. He will endure and he will be fine. Been there and done that. I have no ill will toward this man. I just asked him to be more respectful, that's all.
as a jw, i was taught the wrong idea of what the trinity is.
the concept of the trinity does not teach that the father is the son.
Hi Kingpawn,
No, I don't see that in the scriptures, do you? He was fully man and fully God. In Him the fullness of God dwelled bodily. Collosians.
He raised himself from the the dead, remember the quote above about the temple of His body?
He emptied himself and took the form of a servant.....but He was also in the form of God and He also did not expect us to grasp or seize that concept. See Philiipians 2:5-8.
It seems that at times Jesus showed his humanity and at other times He showed his Godship. He was the son of man and the son of God. He never ceased being either, He was both!
The heavens and earth were created by the Word. 2Peter 3:5-7 The word is Jesus. The Creator of the heavena and everything in them was not created.
There are sooooo many more scriptures to show you what is true. You would be amazed. I am willing to supply you with all of them...lol....it would take me years but I will. I first strongly urge you to ask, seek with all of your heart and pray for the holy spirit to teach you. You will be fed like a babe and cradled until you are free. Jesus laid down His life for your sins, KP..just as he did for me. He will set you free. Read Matthew 11:25-30 and do as He asks. You may feel frightened to pray to Him at first because of all we were taught but just tell him that too, he already knows anyway. He will comfort you. Ask Him for His guidance into all truth. You have had enough error, he knows that too. You are more than welcome to pm me anytime for anything. It's time to be taught by the great teacher and master, not man. You will never go wrong or feel such joy. love to you, dj
oh boy.
well, today i sent sites regarding un, silent lambs, missile stock, voting, other jw stuff...about 8 links.
to my friend that i said i wanted to help see watchtower for what it is.. i also told him to be careful....that if he asks hall about it they will say it is apostate or from satan, etc....and to think for himself.. i hope he does not decide i am too dangerous to be friends with.. i would appreciate prayers from any of you who would do so.
Adubsfriend,
You did the right thing for your friend and his family. Remember that God lets the scales come off of their eyes at His pace, not ours. You are a true friend and maybe someday they will see that. It takes time and patience and more patience. You know in your heart that you did what was best and loving for your friend so never give up even if it starts to hurt.God bless. love, dj
well today was a very trying day in court.
megans parents have completely snowballed the guardian ad lietem.
he did state however that he had not had the opportunity to talk to all parties involved and that his descision to recomend megans parents could be changed by the testimony over the next couple of days.
Larry,
Hi...and thanks for remembering to update us. I thought about you today while I was onmy front porch and I asked God to hold you close and keep you focused and give you courage and strength. I also asked Him to take hold of your situation and let what is best be done for your children. I know He heard me. I feel so badly for you and you feel like you have been in a war because you have, my friend. You know it is the middle of June so, hang tough. I would like to offer you some advice about watching yourself over the next few weeks. I say this because sometimes there are some who will check up on you to view your lifestyle, etc. without the children. You did it! It's over and now is time to take care of yourself. I love the picture. It sounds very encouraging. The judge seems to have paid attention, after all! Please keep us posted. I will be checking this board in early July for the decision and to congratulate you, God willing..Take care, dj
i am going to be a dad again, and you know what excites me besides all the normal stuff?.
my child will never have to go through what i did being a witness.
he will never have to tell his teacher that he cannot celebrate a holiday or have a birthday cake.
Congratulations Freedom 96!!
That's wonderful! Hey, how do you know he won't be a she???? I have one of each and they are both fun, in different ways. As babies though, they do all the same stuff, you know...poop, cry, eat, poop, cry. eat.....lol...God bless!
Poor Cali,
Oh, how well I remember saying what you are saying....ugh...I do have a suggestion but I dunno if you are interested or not....ahem, sex will do it.
as a jw, i was taught the wrong idea of what the trinity is.
the concept of the trinity does not teach that the father is the son.
Ravyn,
Thanks for the post, it was great. It is truly one spirit who teaches us all things. I have come to these conclusions only thru reading the scriptures and praying for the guidance of the holy spirit for understanding them. It is not by coincidence that I (an xjw) could come to understand these things mentioned above (plus much more!). My eyes were so blinded as a jw and my heart was so hardened against what is true. It is as if I had been another person. There is no way that anyone who just reads the scriptures and prays that they would ever come to the conclusions and teachings of the watchtower!! It just shows that what is of man is not of the spirit of truth. I enjoyed reading that and thanks again bit I had to laugh at this: by David A. Reed (not a Catholic Publication but for the most part it is excellent).
I have no idea how I managed to put that whole thing in a quote....lol...I just wanted to quote the highlighted part! I wrote the rest......as you know I am not Catholic, just regular Christian...lol Love, dj
