Posts by DJ

Oh how well I can relate to that! It really hurts. Reach out to her.....take Simon's advice. Never give up telling her that you love and miss her. I really believe that deeeeeep inside all of the dubdom, somewhere there is your mama. If she shows you hate just give her love. It'll take time and patience but it will work out if you persist. If it means that much to you, don't give up. Pray for her and for yourself to have the wisdom to handle yourself and the love of Christ to deal with her. It will work out.

(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((tammy)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) Love, dj

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Friends, may I have your hugs?

by sunshineToo in

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i'm getting married on oct.13.

i only have less than two months to get ready for the wedding, and i didn't have anything ready last week.

as you may know i am da'd.

DJ

Daer Sunshine,

I was saddened to read how you hurt because of the actions of your mom. Just know that it is par for the course. You handled her just fine, try to continue to treat her in a loving and respectful way. I think that even though you may feel hated, somewhere deep inside your mom knows that she is wrong. Try to never ever argue scripture with her! (LOL, like that works.....) No, seriously just show her your love and tell her that you love her even while she's reading you the riot act. This too will pass...(((((((((Sunshinetoo))))))))))))))

with love, dj

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silentlambs march- please get ready now!

by silentlambs in

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the silentlambs march is fast approaching, i encourage one and all to get your hotel reservations and make your final travel arrangements.

we have a listing of discount hotels if you need assistance.

we are going to have a police escort all the way to the front door of 25 columbia heights .

DJ

Dear Bill,

Sounds good! I totally agree with you about the banners and posters. It is not the time for any other issue to be raised!!! Hope to be there. Love, DJ

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I'd like to introduce myself.......

by DJ in

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my name is donna.

i was directed to this forum through freeminds.org by randy watters.

i found his site to be very helpful to me and i highly recommend it to other newbies.

DJ

I never expected such a loving response from so many! Thank you all from my heart. It is a time for healing for me and I could sure use all the friends!

In answer to the question about forcing my way into their lives..Hmm...well, it was not easy......I was anxious to say the least but, I had the most powerful weapon, love. My dad was the only one out of my entire family who never completely shunned my husband and me. He would appear now and then on our doorstep to visit and to see his grandchildren. It was not very often, maybe 3x a year, but it was more than anyone else. My family never returned my calls as their machines screen for them at all times. When my father became ill, I was determined to help him in any way possible. I took abuse from family members and my sister told me that my dad's integrity was being tested to see if he would accept blood.......I was not welcomed and was told not to get involved. It was a trial for me of extreme patience and tongue holding. I simply bombarded them with loving words to defeat their nastiness. Works wonders. I have listened to countless pleads and threats to come back to the org. along with everything else you can imagine. The key was just never ending love. Silence in the face of their ranting is helpful sometimes and other times just a gentle word or two would do. I had to always bear in mind that it is not against flesh and blood that we war, but against evil spirits. They are victims, self-righteous as they may be, they are still victims. To gently show the love of Christ through words or deeds proved to tame them eventually. It has been a year and I do whatever needs to be done for my parents because I love them despite their nonsense. My dub siblings are busy filling their time cards, so I am actually needed to help my mom with housework and cooking. I actually have the job of coordinating my father's medical care. My mom is in a denial and my sisters are busy and even if they weren't it wouldn't help because the dubs have robbed them of most of their common sense logic. My brothers, one is a dub just not baptized....he's not very helpful and my oldest brother who is looked down upon for not commiting to the borg has been my main helper. Odd as it seems.....the two children who refuse the WT are the most loving and attentive at this rough time.......so sad. There is no mystery here............just doing for others what I would want done for me....loving them. It has been a rough year....but.....I've got my papa's love back and they can never ever take him from me again@!!!!!!

Thanks again for all of your kind words.....I really needed it...Love, Donna

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Our Father who art in Pleiades

by zev in

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*** rbi8 matthew 6:9-13 ***.

9 you must pray, then, this way:.

to just what stars or star groups these names refer we do not know today.

DJ

Actually, I'm sursprised that they had sense enough to change that one. I mean after all, they still deny his Omnipresence don't they? Love, DJ

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Let's try this

by maximumflash in

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everyone is on this board for one reason or another.

many of you because of wrong doings or injustices committed by someone.

whatever the reason, we are all on this board making posts that maybe interesting to others here.. instead of talking trash about someone you may not like on this board, let's do this:.

DJ

Max,

I couldn't agree with you more. I believe that this site could be so much more helpful to those who are just leaving or just considering leaving the Borg. I have seen several people run from the chat room because they are seeking help and some big mouth starts with a foul mouth and sexual inuendos. I think sex is great, but there is a place for it and this site is not it! This place is such a powerful resource. I could be used for a much greater purpose for all. I have not been here long, but I have met some seriously hurting people who have been frightened away. I think it's sad. Maybe some of the trouble makers have simply forgotten what it was like when they first left the wt. Common sense and compassion are not qualities that should be too hard to respect. Love, DJ

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My grand daughter's poem, "A Penguin's Dre...

by larc in

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my 10 year old grand daughter and her friend co-wrote a poem that is in print, "a penguin's dream.

" - within the artic circle.

a penguin had a dream.

DJ

Larc,

Your'e grandaughter is a bright little thing! Reminds me of 'The Little Engine that Could". I hope that she treasures that poem for the rest of her life. I know that there have been many times when I needed words of encouragement like those! Maybe you can keepsake a copy for her in case she needs it one day.

Love, DJ

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Born Again Christians

by Celia in

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something is bothering me.

from time to time i watch two or three little boys, the sons of a young woman i know.

i did again 2 days ago, as she needed to go to the mall with a friend for back-to-school shopping.

DJ

Hi Celia,

Wow, I homeschool my kids. I would never be a part of a group like that. I guess I consider myself born again too, since believers must be in order to see the kingdom of God. The world is full of all kinds of people and wacky ideals...........please don't let that incident make you judge all of us Christian home-schoolers. With Love, DJ

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I'd like to introduce myself.......

by DJ in

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my name is donna.

i was directed to this forum through freeminds.org by randy watters.

i found his site to be very helpful to me and i highly recommend it to other newbies.

DJ

Hi Everyone:

My name is Donna. I was directed to this forum through freeminds.org by Randy Watters. I found his site to be very helpful to me and I highly recommend it to other newbies. I have been a member here since the end of May. At first I was taken back by some of the language and ideals. Since then, I've grown to understand that many different beliefs are professed here and that it's ok.

Since age 12, I was taught the doctrines of the jw's. I was young and simply believed my parents. I remember the first time that I learned that celebrating Christmas was evil. I was saddened but I believed my parents and wanted to please God, so I didn't argue. My parents were not baptized and neither were us kids. I am one of 5 children. We were all formerly non-practicing Catholics. After a few years of weekly studies, my parents were convinced that the witnesses had the truth but for whatever reason they were not baptized. As my brothers and sisters and I grew up, we were taught the wt doctrines relentlessly. As a teenager, I rebelled and started to 'party'. It eventually led me into a lot of trouble and pain. I was married at the age of 18, mainly to get out of my unhappy house. I thought that I was in love but in retrospect I think that 'being felt loved' was more accurate. My husband overdosed on drugs and suffered brain damage. I remained married to him for 9 years until he died. He drowned. It was a very painful time for me.

I have since remarried a fabulous man. I prayed for a man like him and met him a week later! He has been my best friend, lover and earthly hero for 13 years now. We have two children. When my first child was born, I began to feel the awesome responsibility of teaching her everything including spiritual issues. The only thing that I knew was......the dubs......My husband was raised Catholic, even went to 12 years of Catholic school yet he claimed that he learned nothing of spiritual value. So, I fell back to my witness teachings and began to teach my husband what I had learned. He was interested enough to agree to home bible studies with them. Well..............I had a lot of questions for them and I think I made them crazy. I must admit that they were very patient with me. I was convinced that they had the truth about a lot of things....ie: Jehovah's name, the trinity, certain holidays, even blood transfusions. I could not however accept 1914 or the 144,000, or certain other holidays. My husband was interested but he had not been indocrinated as a child, so he had an easier time shrugging them off.

I am having a difficult time articulating all that has happened to me as a result of this cult. I could probably write for years! I have been through so much. I will try to shorten this......here goes....I was entually indoctrinated thoroughly and desired baptism but something stopped me. I was confused as to why whenever I brought up the topic of Jesus....I was redirected to Jehovah. I had always wanted to know more about Jesus because I fell in love with him as a child, through tv movies such as The Greatest Story Ever Told and Jesus of Nazareth. I prayed and I read my bible. My marriage was being turned upside down because I became very critical of others and I was very strict with our little girl. After all, the world and everyone in it was EVIL except for the dubs. I was a monster full of fear, anxiety and depression! This went on for years. I continued to pray and pray and plead with God to help me see if this was the 'truth'. During this time I became pregnant with my second child, a boy. I was ever so earnestly seeking God. I wanted the true truth! I read two books by David Reed,( verse by verse and subject by subject ) I was amazed, I was learning more from the bible with him than I ever had while studying with the witnesses! I began to read my bible only!! I did research, I even bought books to teach myself Greek! I was learning weird things about the WT like, pyramids, false predictions, new lights that flashed etc. I was shocked and horrified and totally submerged in confusion. I could never believe another religion again!

One September evening, my husband was late coming home from work. I felt an eerie feeling as I waited. His dinner was getting cold. Then, the phone rang........it was the hospital telling me that my husband had been in a motorcyle accident. They told me to remain calm but come asap. I numbly put our daughter into her carseat and pulled the seat back for me, as my belly had grown quite a bit with my new pregnancy. I arrived at the hospital and was told that my husband needed surgery and he would be in the OR all night. I called my father and asked if he would take my daughter to his house for the night. As I waited for my dad, my husband was wheeled past me on a girney, they stopped so I could see him. He was only concerned about me and our daughter and my pregnancy.......he was asking the doctors to take care of us....I bent to kiss him and when I stood up as they hurredly took him to surgery, I noticed that the front of me was covered in his blood. He was in surgery for 16 or so hours! After the 1st surgery was over, I was told that he had been given 23 red cell transfusions during surgery and after because he had internal bleeding and they could not find the source. The following evening they found it, it was an artery in his intestines. He had many broken bones...he was put on a ventilator for 2 weeks...He developed ARDS, which is when your lungs don't work properly. They told me that he would die. I could only hold onto my newfound love for the Jesus that I had discovered, full of love and compassion and mercy. I did not have guilt about the transfusions, I knew that they were merciful, despite my family. My parents and two of my sisters had been baptized a few months prior to this into the Borg. I had to hear from my sister in the ICU while my husband was lying there that I was wrong to let him have blood and she was never more convinced in her entire life. I held close to Jesus and kept praying, staying in intensive care intil midnight for weeks. I love my husband with all of my heart and I remembered how he'd been so patient with me while I struggled with that religion. He was a gentle, loving, kind hearted man who never let me down. I loved him more now than I ever thought was possible to love a person. I prayed and prayed for him. We had just sold our house and we had to move into our new one in a few weeks...lol?.......The trauma surgeon asked me to continue praying because he knew of no other reason why my husband was still alive. So, I did.

After a month in the hospital, Anthony began recovering.........it was a very long haul. I gave birth to our son in '97 and we named him Michael. Yes, he was named in rebellion to the WT teaching of Michael the Archangel being Jesus! A few years have passed, my husband is strong and healthy again. We were shunned by my family, even though I was never actually baptized. I guess it was because I spoke openly to them against their false teachings and of course the blood thing made me a bad association. It was a painful time as well, only tempered by our new beautiful little boy.

Now, my husband and I are Christians......even been baptized! I homeschool our two children and make a welcoming home for my precous husband. A year ago, my father was diagnosed with 2 brain tumors. I forced my way back into their lives, they were very angry at first. Now they put up with me because I only offer them love. I love my parents and siblings and will always show them love because to me, they are simply misguided and miserable as I once was.

I have a request for you all, if you find the time I would be very grateful for prayers for my parents to be freed from this stinkin' cult and to find the love of Christ as I did in Matt 11:28.

Thanks for letting me share. Love, DJ