I agree with Blondie. Don't hide, just say:no thank you. Don't be confretational or rude, this way you will show up his rude behavior.
becca1
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Blow up at an elder lately?
by Dune ini consider myself to be an extremely tolerant person.
i'm one of those people that are extremely yielding, never get into confrontations and things of that sort.. i've been fading for about two months but instead of being smart like everyone else on the board and doing it gradually, i simply just dropped off the face of the earth (by witness standards) and just focused on school and work.. theres one elder that has been calling my family asking about my whereabouts, the times i'm home, my cell # and all the good stuff.
i wake up at 6:30 in the morning to the guy calling me, i dont bother picking up but he leaves a message.
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I saw the film when it first came out and immediatly saw the paralell.
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DO YOU STILL HAVE PERSONAL INTEGRITY?
by juni infor most all of us here we have had association with the jehovah's witnesses in some way or another.
there are many man-made "rules" within the organization.
that fact we all agree on.
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HI Juni: I have not had the time to read all the posts but from what I've seen I think some are making this a semantics lesson and that is not what you intended.
I get your point: do we have integrity (stand for something) and are we moral (whichever moral code we choose to follow). For me the answer is YES. Because of my integrity I can no longer support a hypocritical org.
And as for morals, I don't intend to be immoral simply because I am no longer accountable to the org. I don't judge others who think differently ,but personally I think some things are inherently wrong or at least detrimental such as: aduletery, promiscuity, foul language, smoking. drugs,drunkeness as a hobby, etc. I too found Butter's reaction to the person df'd for adultery disturbing. I also find disturbing some of the accounts of "apostafests" and the like. I feel uncomfortable when I see former witnesses glorifiying loose behavior. For me, leaving the WT does not translate to doing "whatever". Others obviously feel differently, and that is their right, but I would not want others to think that just because we come to this forum we condone anything others do or say.
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What would you say is the main reason why people didn't listen to us?
by JH inwhen i started going out door to door, i was sure i'd bring a couple of people with me to the org.
i knew my parents believed in god and the bible, so i was sure i'd be able to convince them with a few simple verses that we had the truth.
but no, they didn't seem convinced enough to want to study.
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On the outset: we are too different. Then, if they got past that and looked into it they found it was a difficult life to lead and they would have to give up to much to commit to it. Those who do come in are either weird and lonely to begin with or broken and looking to anything for an answer.
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How many are like me?
by JH ini still believe in god.
still believe his name is jehovah or something like it.. still believe that jesus is his son, and he isn't god almighty.. don't believe in the trinity.
i believe in the resurrection.
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I definitly don't believe the the "unbeliefs": trinity, hellfire, immortal soul. But as for what I do believe, I don't really know right now. My disillusionment is so deep it has made me question everthing. I would like to say I still believe in Jehovah and Jesus, the ransom, hope of eternal life, etc. but I can't say for sure. I sort of in "limbo" right now.
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something is wrong
by becca1 inthe last topic posted is dated nov.29, 1999. what is wrong?
also, i posted a topic and it did not show up.
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becca1
Thanks everybody!
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I need to contact Ray Franz
by becca1 ini have tried in vain to email ray franz through his editor.
could someone here who has a more direct way of contacting him deliver a message for me?
please pm me if you can help.
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becca1
I emailed him there months ago. No response.
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something is wrong
by becca1 inthe last topic posted is dated nov.29, 1999. what is wrong?
also, i posted a topic and it did not show up.
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becca1
The last topic posted is dated Nov.29, 1999. What is wrong? Also, I posted a topic and it did not show up.
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I need to contact Ray Franz
by becca1 ini have tried in vain to email ray franz through his editor.
could someone here who has a more direct way of contacting him deliver a message for me?
please pm me if you can help.
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I have tried in vain to email Ray Franz through his editor. Could someone here who has a more direct way of contacting him deliver a message for me? Please PM me if you can help. My parents were friends of his and Cynthia's years ago and I have some questions for them.
I would really appreciate your help.
Thanks.
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Gotta get this out today.
by purplesofa ini don't know where to begin to say what is all bottled up inside me.
i may need to be on another forum, but i have come to respect the posts and input of so many here, and trust.....so it may be jumbled, and may take starting a few topics to fully get it out.. i have already posted about my youngest brother committing suicide.
i have another brother also.. my mother divorced my father i am guessing when i was five or six.
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becca1
Dear Purps: I wish I knew you personally and could give you a hug. You are carrying much to big a burden for one person. Have you considered going to counseling with your brother? What about a friend? You need areal sholder to cry on.
As for your mom, what she has done is cruel. If her elders have any sense they would counsel her to be fair to your brother. I don't think this issue is the fault of the cong. The probably have no idea how she behaves with her family. She definitly needs some professional help.
PM me anytime if you want to chat. I really feel for you.
Take care.