Posts by dmouse

seriously there, folks, i just bet that there are record attendances today as all the fringers and umperty-jumps scuttle back to their kh's in terror of having made a wrong decision.

Yes, even a confirmed atheist like myself nearly succumbed to the lure of it all.
Deep breath and THINK about it…still a load of bollocks.
OK, got a grip now.
Jeez, this spiritual stuff sure has power when fear of the dark returns.

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Witnesses instructed not to harbor private ideas

by cyberguy in

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today's watchtower lesson instructs witnesses not to think for themselves when it comes to bible understanding:.

augest 1, 2001, p. 14, par.

first, since "oneness" is to be observed, a mature christian must be in unity and full harmony with fellow believers as far as faith and knowledge are concerned.

dmouse

That's You-know buggered then.

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Christianity Finished?

by Satanus in

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christianity is almost beaten .

says cardinal.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,2-2001310271,00.html.

dmouse

Christianity Finished? I doubt it. It will go on but in many smaller groups rather than big ones.

I think Budhists have it about right; a very spiritual people, in tune with the environment, and having no need for God.

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Hello All, I am new to this forum.

by Cassiline in

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i am new this site and would like to introduce myself.

i am 36 years old/young, female and live in the usa.

i drifted from the jw's in 1990. i have only recently started to research the jw way because i was afraid to second guess what i was taught for 26 years.

dmouse

Hi! Welcome to this board. It's a great place to hang out if you REALLY want to know what's happening in the JW world.

One piece of advice, which I think others might do well to heed:

Don't take other posters, or yourself, too seriously when here.

Once again, welcome and enjoy.

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I think I did it!

by freeman in

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i believe i have set the wheels in motion for what i believe will lead to my disfellowshiping.

i have been inactive since 1987 and still getting along with the witnesses (invited to gatherings etc.

) but something came up that finally push my buttons just enough to make me explode.

dmouse

Shunning is a barbaric practice. I disagree with it totally.

thewiz, I think you raised some interesting points but they won't be popular on this board, I admire people with the courage to say what they feel in spite of this.

IMHO, it has to be admitted that there IS scriptural precedent for shunning (..not even eating with such a man..nor saying a greeting etc). Whatever the circumstances, that is clearly shunning of a sort. I don't care, and neither will the elders, that there are a million different interpretations of that (and most) scripture. The important thing is, freeman, you broke THEIR rules and you may have to pay the price.

Think before you do anything rash. Lashing out in anger may hurt you and your family far more than it will the WBTS.

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A Question. Your Help Requested!

by Englishman in

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there is something that i am not clear about in my mind, so i would much appreciate some input on this 2 part question.. i keep reading posts from persons who are desperate to leave the jw's.

however, almost without exception, these persons state that they will be shunned by their families and friends.

so, my first quesion is: do you mean that you will be officially disfellowshipped by the elders of your congregation if you simply opt to leave?.

dmouse

There is no unity with this issue.

It seems to depend on where you live and what your face fits like.
Some congregations are more reasonable than others.

I have told more than one elder, as well as family and friends, that I no longer view myself as a JW but I am not shunned. I am greeted warmly by any Bros and sisters I meet.

If you treat them with respect and don't go for the throat everytime you meet a JW they are content, in this area at least, to live and let live.

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LET'S MAKE A LITTLE WAGER

by You Know in

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perhaps you recall the instance in the bible where samson made a wager with the philistines that they couldnt guess his riddle.

as it turned out they wheedled the answer out of him by his fiancee, but the point is that they had a wager.

since the underlying assumption of the apostasy is that we are not living in the last days of this system of things, and that this world is not facing anything remotely like the biblical apocalypse, at least not any time soon, in the spirit of such antagonism, i would like to propose a similar wager.

dmouse

You don't expect YK to specify what he means do you?

Whatever happens, YK will win in his own mind because the world will end in a spiritual sense in October (like it did in 1914) and if the rest of you didn't notice, well, that's your lookout.

Bad things happen EVERY month, but they don't mean shit.

You Know you are a false prophet.

See you next year, and the year after...etc.

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I Said Goodbye

by Farkel in

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my father was rushed by ambulance from his rest home to st. marks hospital in salt lake city, utah friday, but i only just heard about it.

i received a call from the floor nurse and she told me he is not expected to live.

his lungs are filled fill up with fluid and are continuing to fill u with more fluid: he has pneumonia.

dmouse

My thoughts are with you too Farkel.
My Dad died when he was 52. He was wonderful person, but you just don't ever tell your father you love him do you?
Well, when I found out he was dying I told him.
And that was a comfort in the years after.
Nothing brings home your own mortality than the death of your own father. I remember thinking 'I have to put my own son through this pain and there's not a damn thing I can do about it.'
You will never forget him, but the pain of loss will ease in time as you remember the good times.

Kind regards,
Dean.