Posts by dmouse

"we cannot take part in any modern version of idolatry-be it worshipful gestures toward an image or symbol or the imputing of salvation to a person or an organization.

" the watchtower, 11/1/1990, p. 26. .

"identifying themselves with jehovahs organization is essential to their salvation.

dmouse

October 2000 KM advises hiding the truth!

A simple presentation is all that is needed. You might say:

· “I have volunteered my time to help distribute this very important message to every family in [name of city or county]. This is your copy. Please read it.” It may be advantageous not to carry a witnessing case when distributing Kingdom News No. 36.

Awake 1992 Sept 22 p.14

Jehovah therefore rejects the prayers of those who lead a double life, hypocritically ‘hiding what they are.’ (Psalm 26:4) He listens only to one who is “walking faultlessly and practicing righteousness and speaking the truth in his heart.”

Compare:

True peace and security book – page 111

Many persons commonly conceal truth or speak only what they believe will further their own ends. Though this is viewed as normal in the world, that does not make it right.

There is good reason for being honest. Nothing undermines peace and security more than a failure to be honest at all times

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Watchtower Contradictions

by nicolaou in

"we cannot take part in any modern version of idolatry-be it worshipful gestures toward an image or symbol or the imputing of salvation to a person or an organization.

" the watchtower, 11/1/1990, p. 26. .

"identifying themselves with jehovahs organization is essential to their salvation.

dmouse

(Watchtower 10/1 1978 page 31; bold added)

"Thus, when it comes to the application in our time, the "generation" logically would not apply to babies born during World War I. It applies to Christ's followers and others who were able to observe that war and the other things that have occurred in fulfillment of Jesus' composite "sign.""

(Watchtower 5/15 1984 page 5; bold added)

"If Jesus used "generation" in that sense and we apply it to 1914, then the babies of that generation are now 70 years old or older. And others alive in 1914 are in their 80's or 90's, a few even having reached a hundred. There are still many millions of that generation alive."

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From New Book: "Get Used To It, Kid - It's Your Life From Now On!"

by Stephanus in

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in the new kid's book, learn from the great teacher, the chapter "what is god's kingdom?

how to show we want it" has a very interesting cluster of pictures down the side of page 237, showing the dub kid his duties regarding the "preaching work": .

imo the bottom one is the worst - little dubby timmy can't go over to play with little tommy unless he takes his big ol' book of dub stuff with him and wields it like a shield against tommy's wordly influence!

dmouse

"So you see mister, unless you become one of us you'll soon die at Armageddon."

"So you see, unless your mom and dad become JWs you'll soon die at Armageddon."

"And then the door slammed shut and all the people outside died. Just like you and your sister and your mom and dad will when Armageddon comes"

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The Enormity of It All

by Swan in

occasionally the enormity of it all just comes flooding back in on me.

at times it just seems so overwhelming.

at times it seems so incredibly fantastic so as to be unbelievable.

dmouse

Like being raised on a movie set

The Matrix perhaps?

Personally, I was gutted when I realised that the 'truth' was all based on fantasy. Just like Neo (in the Matrix) I found it all overwhelming.

I still have moments when all I want to do is catch a plane to Brooklyn and set about Bethel with a sledge-hammer. But mostly I am over that initial anger. If we allow ourselves to experience uncontrolled emotion regarding the WBTS then we are still being controlled by them.

Hang in there, it does get better.

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hiyo...

by blaid in

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just figured i would say hi and all that good stuff.

for any of you keeping up on kitties posts about that 17 year old boy, thats me.

i have decided to stick it out...but i am looking for some friends in the oregon area..around portlandish?

dmouse

Welcome blaid!

I'm sure all the folks here will do their best for ya!

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Younger generation lnot reaching out and quitting the truth

by truthseeker in

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i was recently reading some old posts, when i came acoss one of maximus' posts about children leaving the truth.. link is here for anyone who wants to read it... http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/10417/1.ashx .

it has been roughly two years since the last post on this.

any ideas as to the percentage of children/young adults leaving?

dmouse

I know a youngster in our congregation who leads a double life (shan't reveal who 'cus of spys) and keeps me informed of stuff that goes on.

Of course, no statistics are collected for this sort of thing so it's difficult to quantify. Most, if not all, evidence of the youth slipping away will be apocryphal local tales.

To cut a long story short many of the youth in my local congregation are refusing to go to meetings at earlier and earlier ages, some as young as 12 are rebelling. Others, in stricter families, say that they will leave the religion as soon as they are 18 or leave home; in the meantime they lead double lives. At a rough estimate barely 30% of the youths in the cong look like they have any chance of staying in for the long term.

The Society KNOWS they are in deep brown stuff, the future of the Organisation is in its children (since very few people come in from cold calling anymore). This is why they are responding with many campaigns to target them. Hence the new children's book and pamphlet you spoke about, plus many parts at the meetings and assemblies aimed at the 'youth' and their parents.

On a side note, my informant had told me recently that a large proportion of the sisters in the congregation are suffering badly from depression - many of them elder's wives. It has become unusual for a woman in the Organisation to be mentally firing on all cylinders.

Many are on anti-depressants, and even those that are not exhibit obvious signs of fatigue, irritability, anxiety, paranoia etc. Try it yourself; ask ANY JW female how they are and you will be subject to a catalogue of what ails 'em.

So much for being the happiest people on Earth

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Paradise lost - found!

by dmouse in

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hey, my mum was having a clear-out today and decided to throw away her old society books (she ain't in now...yippee).. i was helping and came across an old 'paradise lost - paradise regained' book that we used to study as a family when i was just a nipper.. it's in remarkably good condition considering five kids used to man-handle it about 30 years ago.

it wasn't a children's book really, but the simple language used, to appeal to all sorts of laymen, made it suitable for that purpose.. scanning through i came across loads of pictures that really brought memories flooding back, i'll post some more when i get the time.. somebody recently posted a thread about the jw belief that dinosaurs were about at the same time as humans.

well the picture on the inside cover shows a dinosaur (top left) wandering about the desert and people too.

dmouse

Some of the pics were pretty scary - a good brain-washing technique for instilling fear

There aren't that many pics, but the theme is fairly consistant - piss off the God of the JWs and you're toast!

and of course the now infamous:

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Trekkies will not inherit the kingdom of God....

by drwtsn32 in

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this is hilarious!

i am so surprised that the society has counsel on learning the klingon language.

*** g95 12/8 p. 8 a look at todays science fiction ***.

dmouse

On the contrary, you can see from this picture in the Paradise Lost book that worldly people are identified by their inability to master the Vulcan 'live long and prosper' salutation.