i know the witnesses changed their 'generation' definition in 1995 to get away from being tied down to the literal generation of people who saw 1914.. but applying their definition of the word to matthew 24:34 makes the verse meaningless, regardless of whether the original text grammatically allows for their interpretation.
there is no point in saying "this generation will by no means pass away" if 'generation' merely refers to an attitude of people which may remain the same for any ongoing period of time.. there is simply no point in saying it unless it was intended to refer specifically to a literal generation of people who were alive at the time.
of course, there is no validity to their 1914 doctrine anyway, but nevertheless, they are inextricably stuck with it..
Thanks Narkissos
Contrast:
"Does our more precise viewpoint on "this generation" mean that Armageddon is further away than we had thought? Not at all! (Nov 1995 Watchtower)
with
It must be acknowledged that we have not always taken Jesus’ words in that sense...
...helping us to see that his usage was no basis for calculating—counting from 1914—how close to the end we are.
i know the witnesses changed their 'generation' definition in 1995 to get away from being tied down to the literal generation of people who saw 1914.. but applying their definition of the word to matthew 24:34 makes the verse meaningless, regardless of whether the original text grammatically allows for their interpretation.
there is no point in saying "this generation will by no means pass away" if 'generation' merely refers to an attitude of people which may remain the same for any ongoing period of time.. there is simply no point in saying it unless it was intended to refer specifically to a literal generation of people who were alive at the time.
of course, there is no validity to their 1914 doctrine anyway, but nevertheless, they are inextricably stuck with it..
For some reason I can't post what I want to. If someone can find and post the text of Questions fron readers, June 1st 1997 I would be grateful, as this is very pertinent to this topic.
Cheers,
dmouse
greetings, people who know nothing about jws.
i have a question.
are you blogging this site because you are bored or want to feel special, because it certainly cannot be for anything positive you might have to share with others.. i have been associated with jws for 30+ years.
Sad
This particular religion provides what she needs at this time. Let her be.
the official watchtower 2006 service year report is not out yet, but i have it on good sources that this year's increase on publishers number is 1.9%.
the average number of publishers will be around 6,500,000. .
here's the % increase for this decade:.
Many have speculated that JWs will reach zero growth around 2012. Extrapolating using the graph seems to indicate that that is still very much on track.
Unless they pull something spectacular out of the hat!
my right wrist hurts every time that i use the mouse.
i've got a towel under my wrist now.
anybody got any cures for a sore wrist?
Could be RSI (repetitive strain injury). Take frequent breaks and perform exercises on the joints affected.
My Carpel tunnel syndrome was helped very much by taking rosehip extract:
http://www.saga.co.uk/health_news/article/2DAEB2E6-F918-4488-9A2B-3713335368E2.asp?bhcp=1
we have some creative and funny people here on jwd... any thoughts on good bumper sticker ideas?.
i'll go first....... .
dont know what i am doing fully.
my backyard and my cat.
i don't have very good subjects right now .....sorry.
Never saw the point in raking leaves. Stroked a few pussies in my time though...
help me break in my new scanner, and test out your photoshop abilities.
here are two of my favorite images from last year.
comments or captions anyone?.
Office:
Mary was confident that, even if he did spill the coffee on her, you wouldn't be able to tell with THAT dress.
some of you might remember my story from years ago - how i became an 'apostate' which effectively ended my marriage of 20 years.
how my wife subjected me to intense psychological abuse when i left 'the truth'.. my son ben, whom i love deeply, left when he was dragged into the back room and told he was being used by satan to corrupt the congregation (he was only15) because he was gay.. my dearest middle daughter charlotte, who has more common sense than all of us put together, 'left' on her 14th birthday.
she was dragged out of the house in her bare feet to be taken to the meeting, and because i intervened i spent the next year on a camp bed in the front room.. in the end, i could not stand the abuse and left.
Had an update from my son today. It seems that some JWs did come round this morning to 'comfort' her but she was too upset to see them - she told Ben to tell them she was too ill and went upstairs in tears. I believe she is ill, depressed and has been for some time. She still cannot accept that Ben is Gay or that all her children are leaving 'the truth'.
Ben told me that Chloe has back-peddeled somewhat and has made concessions for her mum's sake - I don't know what that means, possibly more studying etc. I did warn her to expect heavy-duty guilt pressure from 'mature ones' in the congregation. It seems so wrong that Chloe is forced to put up with such crap at the age of 15. Of course, being a JW, my Ex has NO friends outside, and I suspect that the counselling provided by her employer will be little help because they just won't concur with the Society's way of dealing with all problems (more service, study, meeting attendance).
I've suspected for many years that my Ex wasn't firing on all cylinders but I really don't think she would harm them physically, and my children are used to her "You know what Mum's like" is a common expression from them. They are very mature for their age and I am confident they can handle things. Ben is 19 now and parents aren't important anymore except as a source of funds!
Anyway, we'll see how it develops.
some of you might remember my story from years ago - how i became an 'apostate' which effectively ended my marriage of 20 years.
how my wife subjected me to intense psychological abuse when i left 'the truth'.. my son ben, whom i love deeply, left when he was dragged into the back room and told he was being used by satan to corrupt the congregation (he was only15) because he was gay.. my dearest middle daughter charlotte, who has more common sense than all of us put together, 'left' on her 14th birthday.
she was dragged out of the house in her bare feet to be taken to the meeting, and because i intervened i spent the next year on a camp bed in the front room.. in the end, i could not stand the abuse and left.
Thank you for all your comments.
I know I have strong, well balanced children. It is amazing, even in the worst of scenarios, how resilient children are!
My concern is for my Ex. I was married to her for 20 years... she was the most intelligent, beautiful woman, she was the mother of my children. Even though we have been divorced now for over two years I still miss her. And feel her pain. But there is nothing I can do. She hates me. I am a child murderer.
And people wonder why we hate this religion...
