Thanks for sharing your story Laurie, I read it all too, though it was difficult through my tears. I can't imagine the pain of those years. I'm glad that you have a happier life now.
And hi to bikerchic; welcome all newbies.
Posts by dmouse
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63About Daniel Fitzwater-Exposed on Dateline
by LFitzwater inthis is a very long story that i will try to condense.
it will still probably be too long.
life is good for us now that we know the real truth.
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Just got this email from Dateline
by dmouse indateline nbc.
tonight on dateline tuesday:.
their church was their whole world.
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Just to make a comment on this, I think it is good that the program seems to be stressing the victim's point of view. This means that it is from personal experiences and cannot be easily dismissed as apostate lies.
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Just got this email from Dateline
by dmouse indateline nbc.
tonight on dateline tuesday:.
their church was their whole world.
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Dateline NBC
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Their church was their whole world. As devout Jehovah's Witnesses, they adhered to the strict laws of their faith: They are required to evangelize and yet keep separate from those who don't share their beliefs. They must refrain from birthday and Christmas celebrations, blood transfusions, and military service. For six million people around the world, it is more than religion. It is life.
So imagine what it was like for some Jehovah's Witnesses to confront what they say is a terrible evil in the church community. They believe the church is covering up cases of child molestation, protecting the abusers, and putting more children at risk.
DATELINE Correspondent John Larson spoke with victims, their families, and former church officials. They told DATELINE the problem is widespread within the church. What makes it worse, they say, is that it is virtually impossible to seek justice from the church leadership.
DATELINE Producer Richard Greenberg says that while this story reminded him of what is happening in the Catholic church, there are key difference. "Most significantly," he said "Jehovah's Witnesses keep track of all members' sins -- whether smoking or apostasy or child molestation. A special committee of elders -- the lay ministers who run local congregations -- investigates the allegations, applying a biblical principle requiring two or more witnesses to any transgression. Critics complain that because child molestation usually occurs in private, a two-witness standard means that a molester will be punished by the church only if he confesses, meaning many cases are dropped."
The victims we talked to say that when they threatened to go to the police, they were threatened with expulsion from the church.
The church leaders deny these allegations, saying they abhor child molestation and never tell people not to go to the police. And in the 16 states that require churches to alert the police to allegations of child sexual abuse, they say they comply, with or without witnesses.
What else does the church do, about alleged child molesters? The story tonight.
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Barbara Anderson Disfellowshipped
by silentlambs inas of 1 pm today barb anderson was notified that she has been disfellowshipped in writing by the judicial committee in her congregation.
barb was df in absentia at a second hearing that was declared after she successfully defended herself against charges in the first hearing.
home office came back with further instructions to make it stick the second time around.
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dmouse
(((((((((Barbara))))))))))
You have more balls than the whole of the GB put together.
My thanks to all involved in helping the children.
We CAN hurt the WBTS!
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Dateline -- 16 Years Late & a Dollar Short
by accuracy in*** w86 1/1 13 days like "the days of noah" ***.
12 shocking as it is, even some who have been prominent in jehovahs organization have succumbed to.
immoral practices, including homosexuality, wife swapping, and child molesting.
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dmouse
Like I've said before, Accuracy is a hit 'n' run merchant.
The quote he provides is also typical of the WBTS's window dressing - something to fool the public and the gullible JW. What happens in reality is completely different.
Of course JWs are against paedophilia, who isn't? The Catholic Church has statements condemning the practice and admitting the problem too. But it's the despicable way hundreds if not thousands of cases of child molestation among Jehovah's Witnesses have been handled in the past. And the way they have been handled is by cover-ups.
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Don't Walk..Don't Talk..
by Englishman inim just throwing this one into the ring to see what you think.
i know the wtbts are always beating the drum about not forsaking the gathering of ourselves together as some have the custom, but do they really want jws actually talking with one another when they arent around to monitor the conversation?.
if you think about it, jws would appear to have had their opportunities for social intercourse severely curtailed.
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Delusional Parasitosis - a mistaken belief that one is being infested by parasites such as mites, lice, fleas, spiders, worms, bacteria, or other organisms.
Hmmm, so DSP would be a spiritual version of this?
Bathory, are you saying that Englishman is delusional, in looking for things that aren't really there?Even paranoids can have real enemies
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Don't Walk..Don't Talk..
by Englishman inim just throwing this one into the ring to see what you think.
i know the wtbts are always beating the drum about not forsaking the gathering of ourselves together as some have the custom, but do they really want jws actually talking with one another when they arent around to monitor the conversation?.
if you think about it, jws would appear to have had their opportunities for social intercourse severely curtailed.
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dmouse
I think you might have something there, Englishman.
I would also add to the pot the latest US Kingdom Ministry (thanks VioletA)which highlights the dangers of speaking to brothers (not apostates)around the world via the Internet.
The focus is on remaining local.
Could it be that this granulation makes it easier to control the congregations? If one or many congregations wake up and turn on their masters it's easier to isolate them, preventing any spread of disillusionment to the wider masses. And easier to spread lies about rogue congregations.
Knowledge and information is power, and the WBTS is jealous of that power. They want COMPLETE control over what the brothers hear.
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Deus Ex Machina
by metatron inmuch as i would like to see an unbroken string of.
watchtower defeats, unfortunately they may find encouragement.
in a possible coming event - nuclear war between pakistan.
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Not only that, but today Russia sign up for NATO in an historic agreement; hailed by all as a new era in international relations.
All the old enemies coming together to fight a single enemy - religious fanatics.Turning on religion and 'Peace and Security' anyone?
The JWs are gonna love this.
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SIGN: 10th Planet and 2003
by spaz inhey guys, gleaned this this morning.
anyone got any input?.
the only "sign" of christ's return: the 10th planet & 2003. by:- fat jack mccracken .
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dmouse
Hi Spaz, welcome to the board.
Just one word of advice - don't sell your home and go preaching this stuff in the remaining months before the end.
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Is Blood Thicker Dan Water
by non_trias_theos insome people in this place think that jws break up families.
they say that since jws df unrepentant baptized members and insist on jw family members restricting association with df members that jws try to break up families.
what do you think about this charge?.
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How can you seriously debate a guy with a name like stinky pants?
I'm sorry SP, but that was funny! It made me laugh anyway.
Don't bother with non_compos_mentis, he ain't worth it.
I have seen some good points raised by 'Accuracy' but he's a hit and run merchant - doesn't hang around for debates.