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  Not invited

  by dmouse in

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  i am alone at home tonight.

  my wife and children are busy having dinner and 'spiritual association' with an elder and his wife.. i wasn't invited, even though i am not da or df, just inactive.

  and although i've made my position clear in that i'm not interested anymore i've never made any trouble really.. i didn't think it would hurt but it does.

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  dmouse

  Thanks for your supportive words folks, it helps.

  Scully, thanks for asking about Ben (my teenage son). He's undergoing intensive elder scrutiny at the moment, with continuing indoctrination sessions, sorry, bible studies every Wednesday night with one of them. But despite that he's turning into a very mature and sensible lad (as far as teenagers can!). He is biding his time, like many youths in the congregation, and not saying too much. But he is taking no active role in the congregation, has stopped going in field service, and tells me that he will never be baptised as a JW.

  Ben is busy making plans for his life (NOT pioneering!). He loves the stage, singing, acting and dancing and I am trying to maintain his options as best I can. One day he will be famous; he has the drive and talent to make it. Of course he has the constant barrage of negative comments from all members of the family who are still JWs about the lure of Satan's world but he just smiles to himself and ignores them.

  What I don't want is for him to suffer the complete breakdown in faith that I experienced. I lost my faith completely in God and that has been an awful weight to bear. I have told Ben that losing faith in a religion shouldn't mean losing faith in God and he should explore other options, particularly in the Christian faith. I have mentioned to him the possibility of attending the church where some of his school friends go and he seems keen on that idea.

  He may go with them to church tomorrow, that'll really freak his mum out if she ever finds out!
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  Not invited

  by dmouse in

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  i am alone at home tonight.

  my wife and children are busy having dinner and 'spiritual association' with an elder and his wife.. i wasn't invited, even though i am not da or df, just inactive.

  and although i've made my position clear in that i'm not interested anymore i've never made any trouble really.. i didn't think it would hurt but it does.

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  dmouse

  I am alone at home tonight. My wife and children are busy having dinner and 'spiritual association' with an elder and his wife.

  I wasn't invited, even though I am not DA or DF, just inactive. And although I've made my position clear in that I'm not interested anymore I've never made any trouble really.

  I didn't think it would hurt but it does. I wonder how many other denominations do this sort of thing - invite only the 'believing mate' round for tea? It seems to do nothing but emphasis the 'us and them' attitude. I would have thought they would invite us as a family, at least for the sake of my wife's feelings, because I might be turned around by their love? Perhaps it's for the best, he's not the humblest of elders; I probably would've cracked and punched his sanctimonious face in by the end of the evening.

  Has anyone else experienced this dividing of marriage mates into 'worthy' and 'unworthy' when it comes to invites to dinner?
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  Colored Shirts?

  by Marcos in

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  what is the wt policy on shirts for the brothers?

  are they supposed to be only white shirts?

  my son, no a sort of waning mormon said that he thought it was funny that the witnesses here copy the mormons (white shirts only).

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  dmouse

  Nothing in print as far as I know. It seems to have been passed on through the COs by word of mouth.

  In my congregation years ago brothers who wore coloured shirts were viewed as rebelious. However, this is changing and now even elders wear them. It's only a few extremists that still only ever wear white shirts.

  I guess there are still pockets of resistance but most JWs see this particular unwritten 'guidance' as the nonsense it is.

  Shame they don't twig that the rest is nonsense too!
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  2003 Memorial date?

  by comment in

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  if anyone knows the date of the 2003 memorial, could they please post it?

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  Wednesday, April 16th.

  ...after sundown
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  The Two Towers

  by Xander in

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  just saw this.. great movie.

  not as good as book, but about matches it roughly as good as fellowship matched the book.. gollum is class act - for those worried the little cgi creature wouldn't work, don't be!

  he looks great - and the voice acting is dead one.. won't say too much, as spoilers might ruin it for some, but you really, really should see the extended edition dvd of the fellowship before seeing this movie.

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  Stephanus, did you get the january KM scan I sent you?
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  Which Watchtower teachings lack logic?

  by sleepy in

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  which watchtower teachings lack logic?.

  i know you're all tempted to say all of them, but some beliefs if the facts were true, would be logical.. which ones that are supposed to be a logical consequence of a true fact are in fact not logical whether the fact is true or not?.

  for an example of logical belief based on untrue or unprovable fact , if god created adam and all humans came from him,(supposed fact) he could pass on defects in his genes to all humans and we could all be "imperfect".this we could call logical.. a watchtower belief that lacks logic is for example jw's who go through armageddon or die and are ressurected to earth are not perfect but still have another test to go through, yet those who die and that go to heaven are perfect straight away and require no further testing.. so which teachings are based on beliefs that are not true and which ones are just not logical?

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  dmouse

  And why did God not know that Satan had turned evil, and immediately destroy him before he could do any wrong.

  Because the story would have been too short then...

  Lots of things about the creation story rankel with me too.

  Like how come when we sinned we become imperfect and die but Satan and the demons get to live in perfection for thousands of years? - and Satan's sin was far worse; sounds like one set of standards for the rich and another for the poor to me.

  And I don't think it was the best idea to put all your eggs in one basket. I mean, if you had the secret of eternal life in just ONE bottle and if you lost it you couldn't make anymore which one of YOU would leave the bottle in the garden all night? Come on, hands up. Not me either, I would make SURE it was safe until other bottles could be made as backups. Not God though, the whole fate of the human race left out in the rain and ruined...DUH!

  Think about what was at stake, thousands of years of human misery and many condemned to die forever. Yet God did NOTHING to protect us. He could have delayed Satan somehow until Adam and Eve had had perfect offspring. He could have created additional offspring, a whole race, in the same manner as he created Adam. He could have not taken away Adam and Eve's perfection until after they had given birth. If you think about it a real God could never have been so irresponsible or vindictive. (Unless of course we were set up by God as the fall guys to avert rebellion in heaven.)

  Why condemn a race of snakes to crawl on their bellys for all eternity, it wasn't their fault! They were used.

  Why give the woman the EXTRA punishment of painful childbirth? After all it could be argued that Adam's sin was greater.

  The whole creation story is just too contrived and illogical to be taken seriously.
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  CONGREGATION SPLITS

  by hamptonite21 in

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  how many times were you in a congregation split?

  i was in 1 in about my 10 yrs active as a jdub.

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  Once, about 30 years ago. We never had sufficiant increase to split again, and I doubt we ever will.

  The congregations still share the same hall, swapping Sunday meeting times annually. This year we had the morning slot - a 10am start. Next week we revert to an afternoon slot for the rest of the year - 2pm
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  BIOS Computer Issue-PLEASE HELP

  by MrMoe in

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  my boss is running a dell inspiron 7000 laptop and i am trying to upgrade the bios (have it on a boot disk downloaded from the dell website) so that i can install windows2000 over an existing '98 os - as without the bios 2000 will not install.

  but, i keep getting this error... and i cannot install the proper bios because i get various memory manager messages... such as:

  phlash won't run with memory managers present for example emm386 or himem bio upgrade

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  dmouse

  I would have thought that you needed to boot from a floppy to upgrade the bios. If the one from Dell isn't a system disc (one that you can boot up from) then if you have a spare floppy handy you can make that a boot disc. To do this put a blank floppy in the 3 1/2 drive, open windows explorer, right click on the floppy drive and select format. At the bottom of the box that appears will be a check box to make the disc an MS-DOS boot disc. Select that and let windows create the disc.

  Leave the floppy in place and restart the computer. It will boot up from the floppy and leave you in the A: drive, no memory managers should be loaded. Swap the floppy and run the bios upgrade program.
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  Been lurking and now I've found me voice!

  by AnotherEscapee in

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  been looking around for a while and have posted a few times but said nothing real significant.

  well, anyway, i thought it was about time i said "hi and it's good to meet you all".

  like many of you, i too have a story but not ready to share it yet, as i have two beautiful daughters trapped in the borg and i'd hate to do anything to jeopardize my relationship with them, you never know who lurks around or am i being paranoid!

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  dmouse

  ISP writes: 'There are quite a few of us in the UK'

  Yeah, check out the map!

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=28455&site=3
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  Been lurking and now I've found me voice!

  by AnotherEscapee in

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  been looking around for a while and have posted a few times but said nothing real significant.

  well, anyway, i thought it was about time i said "hi and it's good to meet you all".

  like many of you, i too have a story but not ready to share it yet, as i have two beautiful daughters trapped in the borg and i'd hate to do anything to jeopardize my relationship with them, you never know who lurks around or am i being paranoid!

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  dmouse

  Welcome to all the new 'uns.

  The 'fade' method is definitely the best way if you have JW family. My wife is still in, and I'm struggling to break the Borg's hold on my children.

  But I'm winning!