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WT Propaganda Techniques

by Ding in

i recently came across some quotes in the february 1, 1952 watchtower.

granted, that's a long time ago, but i think it illustrates the propaganda techniques the organization still uses.. "we should meekly go along with the lord's theocratic organization and wait for further clarification, rather than balk at the first mention of a thought unpalatable to us and proceed to quibble and mouth our criticisms and opinions as though they were worth more than the slave's provision of spiritual food.

theocratic ones will appreciate the lord's visible organization and not be so foolish as to pit against jehovah's channel their own human reasoning and sentiment and personal feelings... after being nourished to our present spiritual health and maturity, do we suddenly become smarter than our former provider and forsake the enlightening guidance of the organization that mothered us?

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Excellent. Thanks!

This is crazy:

Do we suddenly become smarter than our former provider and forsake the enlightening guidance of the organization that mothered us?

No Jesus, no Jehovah.

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If Jesus Could Be Ressurrected On Earth And He Went To Bethel What Would He Tell The Governing Body CEOs?

by frankiespeakin in

for starter stop judging and you will not be judged..

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"Not even a jew among the GB?"

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New light Watchtower magazine leaked from organization weeks ahead of general release

by cedars in

http://jwsurvey.org/governing-body-2/new-light-watchtower-magazine-leaked-from-organization-weeks-ahead-of-general-release.

if doctrinal explanations are missing from the article, it is because they are also missing from the magazine.. i would like to give my thanks again to my source for supplying me with the magazine article weeks ahead of its scheduled release.

it showed remarkable courage, because risks were taken.

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So, they are saying that because the apostles helped Jesus feed a multitude, the FDS/GB/WT gets to feed the Witnesess nowdays? So, are we going to starts drawing a paralel to every freaking miracle that Jesus did? Oh my!

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Mark Sanderson gets official intro in July 15th Watchtower

by cedars in

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friends

in all the hysteria surrounding the "new light" in the forthcoming july 15th watchtower, i forgot to mention that the magazine carries information on the "new governing body member" - who i think we can all safely assume is mark sanderson.. sadly i didn't get scans of the pages in question - just the juicy doctrinal stuff.

still, i thought it was worth a mention!.

cedars.

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Whatever. Not to you, Cedars, but to the "new" GB member.

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warped logic from the memorial talk

by why144000 in

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speaker said we should not partake because when jesus arrives he will take the remnat to heaven and the memorial will be no more.

just as we will not partake then (because the memorial will not exist) it is only logical that we will not partake now.

warped logic at its finest!.

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These people will say anyrhing to discourage eating and drinking. Just say that the bread and wine have poison and get over it!

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So...Did Judas Leave Before the Lord's Evening Meal?

by undercover in

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yes, it's that time of year, once again, when the society starts reliving jesus' last few days on earth as a human.... in addition to all the propaganda about the 144,000 and only they being "allowed" to partake of jesus' blood and body at the annual jw deny christ ritual...another jw teaching, though not as dissected, is the teaching that judas iscariot left the room before the bread and wine were shared with the apostles.. it's important to jw doctrine that this be the case.

because only those who make up the true christian congregation, the annointed, the first of these the faithful apostles, are to partake of these emblems.

if jesus was already aware of judas' plan to betray him and yet judas was present for this new, important ritual, it would be rendered useless by his partaking.

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Undercover, same thing I was thinking.

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longest married couple in the U.S

by His Excellency in

john and ann betar of connecticut have just been named the longest married couple in the u.s.!

he's 101 and she's 97, and have been married 80years.. .

!.

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What religion? Lol.

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Faithful and Discreet Slave parable through the three gospels

by pixel in

this is the parable of the faithful and discreet slave, put up from the three gospels, so you can see their differences (3 gospels out of 4 relate this):.

matthew 24:42-51: (prefered by the gb/fds/gb).

42 keep on the watch, therefore, because ?you?

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wannabefree

Bobcat, thanks a lot for your insights! I don't have the time to look at your links now, but if you will, feel free to drop them here. Would like to read them. Thanks!

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Faithful and Discreet Slave parable through the three gospels

by pixel in

this is the parable of the faithful and discreet slave, put up from the three gospels, so you can see their differences (3 gospels out of 4 relate this):.

matthew 24:42-51: (prefered by the gb/fds/gb).

42 keep on the watch, therefore, because ?you?

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Yes @ Londo111

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Faithful and Discreet Slave parable through the three gospels

by pixel in

this is the parable of the faithful and discreet slave, put up from the three gospels, so you can see their differences (3 gospels out of 4 relate this):.

matthew 24:42-51: (prefered by the gb/fds/gb).

42 keep on the watch, therefore, because ?you?

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This is the parable of the Faithful and Discreet Slave, put up from the three gospels, so you can see their differences (3 gospels out of 4 relate this):

Matthew 24:42-51: (Prefered by the GB/FDS/GB)

42 Keep on the watch, therefore, because ? YOU ? do not know on what day ? YOUR ? Lord is coming. 43 “But know one thing, that if the householder had known in what watch the thief was coming, he would have kept awake and not allowed his house to be broken into. 44 On this account ? YOU ? too prove yourselves ready, because at an hour that ? YOU ? do not think to be it, the Son of man is coming. 45 “Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?46 Happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so. 47 Truly I say to ? YOU , He will appoint him over all his belongings. 48 “But if ever that evil slave should say in his heart, ‘My master is delaying, 49 and should start to beat his fellow slaves and should eat and drink with the confirmed drunkards, 50 the master of that slave will come on a day that he does not expect and in an hour that he does not know, 51 and will punish him with the greatest severity and will assign him his part with the hypocrites. There is where [his] weeping and the gnashing of [his] teeth will be.

Questions:

On verse 49 it says: "His fellow slaves". Who are they? If they are fellows, they mean they are at the same level.

Mark 13:34-37

34 It is like a man traveling abroad that left his house and gave the authority to his slaves, to each one his work, and commanded the doorkeeper to keep on the watch. 35 Therefore keep on the watch, for ? YOU ? do not know when the master of the house is coming, whether late in the day or at midnight or at cockcrowing or early in the morning; 36 in order that when he arrives suddenly, he does not find ? YOU ? sleeping. 37 But what I say to ? YOU ? I say to all, Keep on the watch.”

Questions:

On verse 34, Jesus starts with: "It's like a man..." from this, you can say he will talk using an example or parable. He speaks about more than one slave. Mark omits the "feeding". The important part here is "keep on the watch".

Luke 12:35-48:

35 “Let ? YOUR ? loins be girded and ? YOUR ? lamps be burning, 36 and ? YOU ? yourselves be like men waiting for their master when he returns from the marriage, so that at his arriving and knocking they may at once open to him. 37 Happy are those slaves whom the master on arriving finds watching! Truly I say to ? YOU , He will gird himself and make them recline at the table and will come alongside and minister to them. 38 And if he arrives in the second watch, even if in the third, and finds them thus, happy are they! 39 But know this, that if the householder had known at what hour the thief would come, he would have kept watching and not have let his house be broken into. 40 Y OU ? also, keep ready, because at an hour that ? YOU ? do not think likely the Son of man is coming.”

41 Then Peter said: “Lord, are you saying this illustration to us or also to all?” 42 And the Lord said: “Who really is the faithful steward, the discreet one, whom his master will appoint over his body of attendants to keep giving them their measure of food supplies at the proper time? 43 Happy is that slave, if his master on arriving finds him doing so! 44 I tell ? YOU ? truthfully, He will appoint him over all his belongings. 45 But if ever that slave should say in his heart, ‘My master delays coming,’ and should start to beat the menservants and the maidservants, and to eat and drink and get drunk, 46 the master of that slave will come on a day that he is not expecting [him] and in an hour that he does not know, and he will punish him with the greatest severity and assign him a part with the unfaithful ones. 47 Then that slave that understood the will of his master but did not get ready or do in line with his will will be beaten with many strokes. 48 But the one that did not understand and so did things deserving of strokes will be beaten with few. Indeed, everyone to whom much was given, much will be demanded of him; and the one whom people put in charge of much, they will demand more than usual of him.

Questions:

On verse 38, Jesus speaks about more than one slave. Here on verse 45, Jesus introduces male and female servants. Who are they?