as people get older they inevitably lose more of their friends and family.
the doctrine that binds them to the truth like superglue is the doctrine of the resurrection.
they ache to see their dead rise.. so ... i die.
" This is a very poignant thread. I just realized that those pictures of welcoming back a resurrected loved one at a grave site means that everyone would be standing ontop of the remains of their dead loved one. Imagine, being resurrected and digging up the grave site to see your own dead remains. Talk about cognitive dissonance."
That's creepy.
well it's the 15th today, so i thought i'd check to see whether the feb 15th watchtower has been uploaded yet... and sure enough it has.. here is the link to the pdf.... http://download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/5a/w_e_20130215.pdf.
i've breezed through it and noticed that it is littered with odd stuff that would scream "cult!
" to an outsider, but which your average indoctrinated jw will just lap up as always.. here is my pick of the quotes.... the first article, entitled "this is our spiritual heritage" gives a very flattering whistle-stop tour of the history of god's organization - from abraham to tynedale to rutherford (bypassing russell altogether) before explaining that nothing will ever thwart jehovah's purposes.
They are obsess with God's name. Even they say nobody knows how to pronounce God's name. So, if it were so important, don't you think He would have make sure to preserve its pronunciation?
to all bodies of elders re: kingdom news no.
dear brothers: .
april 1, 2013. we are pleased to inform you that in november 2013 a month-long special campaign will focus on a wide distribution of kingdom news no.
TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS Re: Kingdom News No. 38
Dear Brothers:
April 1, 2013
We are pleased to inform you that in November 2013 a month-long special campaign will focus on a wide distribution of Kingdom News No. 38. The October 2013 Our Kingdom Ministry will feature an article that will provide more details about the campaign. Elders are encouraged to review the following information in an effort to plan for this campaign.
__________
This was part of a letter. The other paragraphs contained general info about requesting them and how to distribute. Nothing interesting.
Pix.
my rudimentary understanding of jw beliefs is that satan is leading traditional christian religions and the wild beast of the un is his tool.
is the wts concept that the un will eventually ban all religion and this will start the big a?
wouldn't satan be working at cross purposes if 'he' is leading the false religions too??
Good question. Jesus asked the same question:
Mark 3:23
And he called them to him and said to them in parables, “How can Satan cast out Satan? 24 If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. 25 And if a house is divided against itself, that house will not be able to stand. 26 And if Satan has risen up against himself and is divided, he cannot stand, but is coming to an end.
bcat, looks like jesus is not michael.
i just shared this with new member "lost".
if this is correct it's another big eye opener for the jw r&f.
QC,
I liked what you did putting those two verses together. Luke 10:17 and Revelation 12:7. In Luke Jesus talk about a "fall", "serpents" and "scorpions", in Revelation, it talks aout "serpents", a "fall" and other angels, could they be "scorpions"? "serpents" related?
I think 1914 as the date of Satan fall to earth is out of the question. You arrive at 1914 through Daniel's big tree, which only applies to Nabo, not Jehovah's Kingdom. Plus, in Matthew 28:19,20 Jesus said that he received all power on earth and heaven right after resurrection.
http://jwsurvey.org/governing-body-2/new-light-watchtower-magazine-leaked-from-organization-weeks-ahead-of-general-release.
if doctrinal explanations are missing from the article, it is because they are also missing from the magazine.. i would like to give my thanks again to my source for supplying me with the magazine article weeks ahead of its scheduled release.
it showed remarkable courage, because risks were taken.
I can of remember that in the annual meeting they say that the development of "believes" takes time and they hover sometimes for years. Can somebody paste the quote here?
i recently came across some quotes in the february 1, 1952 watchtower.
granted, that's a long time ago, but i think it illustrates the propaganda techniques the organization still uses.. "we should meekly go along with the lord's theocratic organization and wait for further clarification, rather than balk at the first mention of a thought unpalatable to us and proceed to quibble and mouth our criticisms and opinions as though they were worth more than the slave's provision of spiritual food.
theocratic ones will appreciate the lord's visible organization and not be so foolish as to pit against jehovah's channel their own human reasoning and sentiment and personal feelings... after being nourished to our present spiritual health and maturity, do we suddenly become smarter than our former provider and forsake the enlightening guidance of the organization that mothered us?
Excellent. Thanks!
This is crazy:
Do we suddenly become smarter than our former provider and forsake the enlightening guidance of the organization that mothered us?
No Jesus, no Jehovah.
for starter stop judging and you will not be judged..
"Not even a jew among the GB?"
http://jwsurvey.org/governing-body-2/new-light-watchtower-magazine-leaked-from-organization-weeks-ahead-of-general-release.
if doctrinal explanations are missing from the article, it is because they are also missing from the magazine.. i would like to give my thanks again to my source for supplying me with the magazine article weeks ahead of its scheduled release.
it showed remarkable courage, because risks were taken.
So, they are saying that because the apostles helped Jesus feed a multitude, the FDS/GB/WT gets to feed the Witnesess nowdays? So, are we going to starts drawing a paralel to every freaking miracle that Jesus did? Oh my!
in all the hysteria surrounding the "new light" in the forthcoming july 15th watchtower, i forgot to mention that the magazine carries information on the "new governing body member" - who i think we can all safely assume is mark sanderson.. sadly i didn't get scans of the pages in question - just the juicy doctrinal stuff.
still, i thought it was worth a mention!.
cedars.
Whatever. Not to you, Cedars, but to the "new" GB member.
