Excellent The Searcher.
Good observation EdenOne. At least we know Jesus had 70 disciples by the time he was on earth.
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42JULY 15th Study Watchtower - NEW LIGHT IS FANTASY
by The Searcher inthe july 15 study watchtower uses all 4 study articles to try to inculcate into every witnesses' mind that the governing body is indisputably god's sole channel of communication on earth.
to do so, it uses a multitude of scriptures along with seriously flawed un-inspired reasoning.
the foundation stone of this watchtower's blatant agenda is the claim that when jesus used only a few to dispense the physical food to the many, he was setting a principle which would be applied to the distribution of spiritual food after he returned to heaven.
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Questions Regarding the New Light on the FDS
by Ding init's my understanding that the old light regarding the faithful and discreet slave was that in 1918-1919 jesus appointed the faithful and discreet slave over all his house.. but under the new light, it's a two-stage process.. now the "truth" is that in 1919 jesus appointed the governing body to provide spiritual food in due season and the gb will only be placed in authority over his domestics during the great tribulation.. all of this is wt nonsense, but in order to get jws who believe this stuff to think about the implications, my questions are:.
1. what will the future appointment authorize the governing body to do that is not yet authorized?.
2. since under the old light the governing body has wrongly believed they have had this authority since 1919, doesn't this mean they have been wrongly exercising authority that jesus hasn't yet given them?.
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Excellent questions.
1. What will the future appointment authorize the Governing Body to do that is not yet authorized?
I think they explained that they will be appointed to Christ's Kingdom belongings aftter the Big A, along with the rest of the annointed. Problem is this parable a.k.a. "prophecy" says that the only ones receiving these things from the Lord is the FDS. There's a lot of annointed that don't make it to the FDS, including the 12 original apostles.
Go figure!
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TAKE THE WATCHTOWER SOCIETY QUIZ How many can you get right?
by Terry intrue or false?.
11. has the watchtower society itself ever celebrated a birthday?
**watch tower reprints 1883 pp.
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I will take it later in the day sir!
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MAJOR-Revelation Climak book critiqued
by Refriedtruth inthis is a major find and holding top ranked will get tens of thousands of hits.
get your licks in comments and vote up the good guys.
10 observations about jehovah's witnesses and the book of .... huffington post-it is argued repeatedly that only jehovah's witnesses are truly faithful to god and so they are uniquely situated to understand the contents of ....
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"flashes of Scriptural truth" - How I hate this expression.
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MAJOR-Revelation Climak book critiqued
by Refriedtruth inthis is a major find and holding top ranked will get tens of thousands of hits.
get your licks in comments and vote up the good guys.
10 observations about jehovah's witnesses and the book of .... huffington post-it is argued repeatedly that only jehovah's witnesses are truly faithful to god and so they are uniquely situated to understand the contents of ....
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Good one alecholmesthedetective and cha ching. So they are saying that John predicted many many years ago that Russell and Co. would have some misundertandings about 1914 and they been taken to heaven. Ok then...
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The resurrection fantasy, the last desperate illusion?
by Slidin Fast inas people get older they inevitably lose more of their friends and family.
the doctrine that binds them to the truth like superglue is the doctrine of the resurrection.
they ache to see their dead rise.. so ... i die.
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" This is a very poignant thread. I just realized that those pictures of welcoming back a resurrected loved one at a grave site means that everyone would be standing ontop of the remains of their dead loved one. Imagine, being resurrected and digging up the grave site to see your own dead remains. Talk about cognitive dissonance."
That's creepy.
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Interesting quotes from the Feb 15th Watchtower (it's not a cult at all, honest!)...
by cedars inwell it's the 15th today, so i thought i'd check to see whether the feb 15th watchtower has been uploaded yet... and sure enough it has.. here is the link to the pdf.... http://download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/5a/w_e_20130215.pdf.
i've breezed through it and noticed that it is littered with odd stuff that would scream "cult!
" to an outsider, but which your average indoctrinated jw will just lap up as always.. here is my pick of the quotes.... the first article, entitled "this is our spiritual heritage" gives a very flattering whistle-stop tour of the history of god's organization - from abraham to tynedale to rutherford (bypassing russell altogether) before explaining that nothing will ever thwart jehovah's purposes.
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They are obsess with God's name. Even they say nobody knows how to pronounce God's name. So, if it were so important, don't you think He would have make sure to preserve its pronunciation?
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BOE Letter: Kingdom News No. 38
by pixel into all bodies of elders re: kingdom news no.
dear brothers: .
april 1, 2013. we are pleased to inform you that in november 2013 a month-long special campaign will focus on a wide distribution of kingdom news no.
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TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS Re: Kingdom News No. 38
Dear Brothers:
April 1, 2013
We are pleased to inform you that in November 2013 a month-long special campaign will focus on a wide distribution of Kingdom News No. 38. The October 2013 Our Kingdom Ministry will feature an article that will provide more details about the campaign. Elders are encouraged to review the following information in an effort to plan for this campaign.
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This was part of a letter. The other paragraphs contained general info about requesting them and how to distribute. Nothing interesting.
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Confused about Satan's plan according to WTS
by new22day inmy rudimentary understanding of jw beliefs is that satan is leading traditional christian religions and the wild beast of the un is his tool.
is the wts concept that the un will eventually ban all religion and this will start the big a?
wouldn't satan be working at cross purposes if 'he' is leading the false religions too??
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Good question. Jesus asked the same question:
Mark 3:23
And he called them to him and said to them in parables, “How can Satan cast out Satan? 24 If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. 25 And if a house is divided against itself, that house will not be able to stand. 26 And if Satan has risen up against himself and is divided, he cannot stand, but is coming to an end.
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Bobcat, give me your take on this
by QC inbcat, looks like jesus is not michael.
i just shared this with new member "lost".
if this is correct it's another big eye opener for the jw r&f.
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QC,
I liked what you did putting those two verses together. Luke 10:17 and Revelation 12:7. In Luke Jesus talk about a "fall", "serpents" and "scorpions", in Revelation, it talks aout "serpents", a "fall" and other angels, could they be "scorpions"? "serpents" related?
I think 1914 as the date of Satan fall to earth is out of the question. You arrive at 1914 through Daniel's big tree, which only applies to Nabo, not Jehovah's Kingdom. Plus, in Matthew 28:19,20 Jesus said that he received all power on earth and heaven right after resurrection.