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Bobcat, give me your take on this

by QC in

bcat, looks like jesus is not michael.

i just shared this with new member "lost".

if this is correct it's another big eye opener for the jw r&f.

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QC,

I liked what you did putting those two verses together. Luke 10:17 and Revelation 12:7. In Luke Jesus talk about a "fall", "serpents" and "scorpions", in Revelation, it talks aout "serpents", a "fall" and other angels, could they be "scorpions"? "serpents" related?

I think 1914 as the date of Satan fall to earth is out of the question. You arrive at 1914 through Daniel's big tree, which only applies to Nabo, not Jehovah's Kingdom. Plus, in Matthew 28:19,20 Jesus said that he received all power on earth and heaven right after resurrection.

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New light Watchtower magazine leaked from organization weeks ahead of general release

by cedars in

http://jwsurvey.org/governing-body-2/new-light-watchtower-magazine-leaked-from-organization-weeks-ahead-of-general-release.

if doctrinal explanations are missing from the article, it is because they are also missing from the magazine.. i would like to give my thanks again to my source for supplying me with the magazine article weeks ahead of its scheduled release.

it showed remarkable courage, because risks were taken.

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I can of remember that in the annual meeting they say that the development of "believes" takes time and they hover sometimes for years. Can somebody paste the quote here?

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WT Propaganda Techniques

by Ding in

i recently came across some quotes in the february 1, 1952 watchtower.

granted, that's a long time ago, but i think it illustrates the propaganda techniques the organization still uses.. "we should meekly go along with the lord's theocratic organization and wait for further clarification, rather than balk at the first mention of a thought unpalatable to us and proceed to quibble and mouth our criticisms and opinions as though they were worth more than the slave's provision of spiritual food.

theocratic ones will appreciate the lord's visible organization and not be so foolish as to pit against jehovah's channel their own human reasoning and sentiment and personal feelings... after being nourished to our present spiritual health and maturity, do we suddenly become smarter than our former provider and forsake the enlightening guidance of the organization that mothered us?

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Excellent. Thanks!

This is crazy:

Do we suddenly become smarter than our former provider and forsake the enlightening guidance of the organization that mothered us?

No Jesus, no Jehovah.

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If Jesus Could Be Ressurrected On Earth And He Went To Bethel What Would He Tell The Governing Body CEOs?

by frankiespeakin in

for starter stop judging and you will not be judged..

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"Not even a jew among the GB?"

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New light Watchtower magazine leaked from organization weeks ahead of general release

by cedars in

http://jwsurvey.org/governing-body-2/new-light-watchtower-magazine-leaked-from-organization-weeks-ahead-of-general-release.

if doctrinal explanations are missing from the article, it is because they are also missing from the magazine.. i would like to give my thanks again to my source for supplying me with the magazine article weeks ahead of its scheduled release.

it showed remarkable courage, because risks were taken.

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So, they are saying that because the apostles helped Jesus feed a multitude, the FDS/GB/WT gets to feed the Witnesess nowdays? So, are we going to starts drawing a paralel to every freaking miracle that Jesus did? Oh my!

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Mark Sanderson gets official intro in July 15th Watchtower

by cedars in

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friends

in all the hysteria surrounding the "new light" in the forthcoming july 15th watchtower, i forgot to mention that the magazine carries information on the "new governing body member" - who i think we can all safely assume is mark sanderson.. sadly i didn't get scans of the pages in question - just the juicy doctrinal stuff.

still, i thought it was worth a mention!.

cedars.

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Whatever. Not to you, Cedars, but to the "new" GB member.

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warped logic from the memorial talk

by why144000 in

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speaker said we should not partake because when jesus arrives he will take the remnat to heaven and the memorial will be no more.

just as we will not partake then (because the memorial will not exist) it is only logical that we will not partake now.

warped logic at its finest!.

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These people will say anyrhing to discourage eating and drinking. Just say that the bread and wine have poison and get over it!

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So...Did Judas Leave Before the Lord's Evening Meal?

by undercover in

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yes, it's that time of year, once again, when the society starts reliving jesus' last few days on earth as a human.... in addition to all the propaganda about the 144,000 and only they being "allowed" to partake of jesus' blood and body at the annual jw deny christ ritual...another jw teaching, though not as dissected, is the teaching that judas iscariot left the room before the bread and wine were shared with the apostles.. it's important to jw doctrine that this be the case.

because only those who make up the true christian congregation, the annointed, the first of these the faithful apostles, are to partake of these emblems.

if jesus was already aware of judas' plan to betray him and yet judas was present for this new, important ritual, it would be rendered useless by his partaking.

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Undercover, same thing I was thinking.

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longest married couple in the U.S

by His Excellency in

john and ann betar of connecticut have just been named the longest married couple in the u.s.!

he's 101 and she's 97, and have been married 80years.. .

!.

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What religion? Lol.

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Faithful and Discreet Slave parable through the three gospels

by pixel in

this is the parable of the faithful and discreet slave, put up from the three gospels, so you can see their differences (3 gospels out of 4 relate this):.

matthew 24:42-51: (prefered by the gb/fds/gb).

42 keep on the watch, therefore, because ?you?

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wannabefree

Bobcat, thanks a lot for your insights! I don't have the time to look at your links now, but if you will, feel free to drop them here. Would like to read them. Thanks!