i've been reading a few articles on the subject of jehovah being jesus in the new testament, which makes perfect sense.
as i don't believe the bible is the word of god (or has been severely altered by man), i do believe there may be some small shreds of truth.
could it be that yahweh in the ot is jesus of the nt?
Right now I'm reading a book called "I, Judas" which is a novel from Judas' point of view -- he did what he did to push Jesus into fulfilling his role (something like that -- so far in my reading Judas has only just met John the Baptist), not for money or evil.
I've always felt bad for Judas. I've been told that Jesus *had* to die, *had* to be betrayed by someone he loved. Jesus knew that it would be Judas...It sounds like Judas was set up.
how did you get to the point where you are at now?
was it primarily new information that made you rethink religion and god?
learning about the ice age, the universe, the fossils out there?
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I'm working on a bibliography for you. Don't plan to eat when you watch these movies...
for all of you non-religionists out there: do you consider yourself an agnostic or atheist, and why?
it seems many ex-jws that "loose the faith" have a tendency to go straight for atheism.
i myself, would consider myself more of an agnostic, as i believe we have no real way of knowing if there is a god one way or the other, and it tends to seem just as extreme to me, to insist that there is not one.
I think that this article misses something -- or confuses -- the word "know" for "proof." People can know something (i.e., feel certain of the reality of something they cannot see etc.) without being able to prove it. In fact, if you look at the various definition of "know" it can mean:
There is "know" as can prove -- and "know" as "feel certain" I maintain that I am agnostic. I don't know if there is a God. Atheists do not believe there is a God. I find that distinction to be important, if only for clarifying my own state of mind.
how did you get to the point where you are at now?
was it primarily new information that made you rethink religion and god?
learning about the ice age, the universe, the fossils out there?
just imagine a spider human sized and its pray human sized. I doubt that even the sickest horror movie director could have come up with that particular nightmare
You clearly don't watch enough movies. I saw one just the other night.
how did you get to the point where you are at now?
was it primarily new information that made you rethink religion and god?
learning about the ice age, the universe, the fossils out there?
Religion -- God -- played no role in my upbringing. I don't believe I ever set foot in a church and then when my mom converted to Judaism, I went to Sabbath School, and learned neat bible stories; but I have no recollection of being taught about God. My parents themselves go to temple on only the high holy days when they have to; I suspect they're both agnostic themselves.
My husband believes in God and I try to talk to him about what my problem is. It feels like a fairy tale to me, not real. I don't feel any greater/higher presence. I'd very much like to believe that there is something more, but i just don't FEEL it. And something bothers me to "worship" God anyway -- it makes me feel like i'm groveling and obsequious.
I also have all the trouble with would I even want to honor the God I read about in the bible.
I know that this post is grammatically repugnant, but it's the best I can do right now. Why did my font change?? I didn't do anything.
**when I hit enter, my funky font went back to normal.**
think about this: if seven times mean only 7 years then daniel could have simply said 7 years.
why does daniel specifically use the word 'times' rather than years?
as we have already shown daniel used the word for 7 times instead of 7 years.
Did anybody else notice that my social invite got totally ignored (from what I can tell). How rude!
I'm pretty sure he offered to take you to see Superman...
The only question that I have noticed not being answered (and I started to do some pretty shallow skimming toward the end) is about the October 1914/ WWI starting before Satan arrived (except for one post, suggesting he got an eviction notice...) This does seem like a good question and I'd like to know if there is any argument relating to it.
Thanks.
I was watching "Sleepover Nightmare"
It took "slasher" to a truly artsy level.
i feel really angry and upset.
a good friend of mine is going through hell because they are being shunned by their children and grandchildren.
their sin?
How is this any different than the Salem Witch Trials?
Nineteen people hanged (including my 11th great grandmother, by the way), one person pressed to death and as many as 13 people died in prison. A little different.
what things happened at your meetings that annoyed you?.
was it at a hall ya visited?
did it happen more than once?.
Has anyone seen children spanked RECENTLY? (as in, before when it was considered appropriate?) The "rod of discipline" was mentioned in service this morning and I specifically asked my bible study person if that meant they advocated beating children and she very clearly said "NO" that it was a discipline and direction issue NOT beating and spanking.
I need to know if the stories you are telling are recent or not.
after leading the reader through most of the major jw doctrines, the watchtower society's introductory book, what does the bible really teach?, really starts laying out the reasoning that you have to be a jw to be approved by god in chapter 15. it is interesting how the first instruction given here is not to go investigating what other religions teach.
but, as the wts writers often do, they resort to circular reasoning and false analogy to support this:.
*** bh chap.
If this was applied fairly the reader would immediately discard the JW publication and read the bible by itself.
but the bible is hard*
*this should be said with a whiny, nasaly tone
